On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 08:06:11 -0400 Henning Follmann <hfollm...@itcfollmann.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 02:08:47PM -0400, Rob Owens wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Marty" <mar...@ix.netcom.com> > > > > > > It seems like free software employment and market share come with > > > increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main > > > concern as a Debian user, as I consider recent trends. > > > > > > I hope that Debian members consider an amendment to restrict > > > voting rights for members who have a financial interest in Debian > > > or in any project used by Debian, to promote and protect the > > > public interest. > > > > Conflicts of interest are not just financial. Even an unpaid > > developer should probably not be voting as a technical committee > > member on whether to make his project the Debian default. He could > > vote for his project because of the glory that comes with being the > > Debian default. Or maybe he truly believes it is the best. But he > > knows his project better than any of the alternatives. He is > > invested in it. He should be the expert petitioning the > > decision-makers, but he should not be one of the decision-makers. > > > > I really think this concept is obvious and was really surprised > > that Debian allowed a vote for default init system to occur in a > > technical committee whose members have vested interests in one init > > system or another. > > > > Avoiding perceived conflict of interest is just as important as > > avoiding actual conflict of interest, because it undermines > > confidence in the leadership. Most conflict-of-interest > > regulations that I know of (USA-based) reflect this. (But let's > > not start citing examples of government officials who have violated > > these principles -- we all know there are plenty). > > > > Anyway, regardless of how impartial the tech committee members are > > believed to be, the upstart guys and the systemd guys probably > > should not have participated in the vote for default init system. > > > > -Rob > > > > > > > > There was no conflict of interest. Every voter has some interests and > the outcome of a vote determines the common interest. But there is no > conflict of interest during a vote. You're a man after former Chicago Mayor Richard J Daley's heart! > A conflict happens when somebody is entrusted by a group to guard a > common good and he/she has her/himself interests in that good. Or, when his paycheck or bribe might cause him to vote a certain way. > > This thread is about the inability to accept a outcome of a democratic > process. Now they claim to own "the right debian" way and to protect > that some "un-debian" persons have to be stopped. I have seen that > before... Keep telling yourself that. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141017182937.53614...@mydesq2.domain.cxm