I've been running Zfsonlinux.org zfs on debian for maybe two years. I don't 
have root fs on zfs. I keep a working copy of the system dirs I have mounted on 
zfs on ext3. (Var and usr). ONE time, the dkms had problems and I was glad I 
had those extra copies (rsync from the zfs ones in a cron job)
I don't see zfs as super fast, lvm based raid would be faster.  But the 
snapshots and other features are awesome. I love cloning a vm instantly. 

On October 11, 2014 9:33:15 PM EDT, lee <l...@yagibdah.de> wrote:
>Reco <recovery...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>  Hi.
>>
>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 03:20:50 +0200
>> lee <l...@yagibdah.de> wrote:
>>
>>> > The license of ZFS makes it impossible to be part of
>>> > the kernel per se. The DKMS system is well known for supporting
>kernel
>>> > modules for video and wireless hardware among others.
>>> 
>>> So there isn't really any way to tell whether it works or not?
>>
>> ZFS is out-of-tree kernel module. It *will* break sooner or later.
>Every
>> out-of-tree module does.
>
>Hm.  I've seen it happening, and since then, I do not at all like the
>idea of using hardware that isn't supported by something in the kernel.
>When it happens, it might even be worse with file systems than it is
>with hardware.
>
>>>  Which
>>> kernel version is ZFS based on/for?
>>
>> [1] tells us that ZFS on Linux verion 0.6.3 supports kernels 2.6.26 -
>> 3.16.
>
>Cool, apparently they even test it with Debian kernels :)
>
>>> Btrfs wouldn't let me do RAID-5 --- perhaps 3.2 kernels are too old
>for
>>> that?
>>
>> A correct guess. A recommended minimum is kernel 3.14 - [2].
>
>So this is a rather new feature.  How reliable and how well does it
>work?
>
>> But, ZFS won't allow you to make a conventional RAID5 either :)
>
>I know --- and I don't require RAID-5.  What I require is what RAID-5
>provides, i. e. redundancy without wasting as many disks as other RAID
>levels.  I also like the better performance of hardware RAID compared
>to
>software RAID.  IIRC, ZFS would provide efficient redundancy and be
>safer than a RAID controller because of it's checksumming.  I'd have to
>try it out to see what kind of performance degradation or gain it would
>bring about.
>
>>> They need to get these license issues fixed ...
>>
>> Back in the old days CDDL was chosen by Sun especially so that
>> this license issue would *never* be fixed.
>> Currently Oracle could re-license ZFS to anything they want,
>including
>> GPL-compatible license, but why would *they* do it?
>
>Why don't they?
>
>
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