On 10/10/2014 10:10 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Miles Fidelman wrote: >> Miles Fidelman wrote: >>> Miles Fidelman wrote: >>>> Miles Fidelman wrote: >>>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>>>>> On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: >>>>>>> On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>>>>>>> I also read this >>>>>>>> mail list via NNTP (easier to keep track of threads) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is perfect for me. But information on the net is scarce and I >>>>>>> don't >>>>>>> know where to begin. I know that I can access linux.debian.* and >>>>>>> read >>>>>>> stuff, but that would require a -often paid- Usenet account. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there an open readonly server specifically for Debian? Mozilla >>>>>>> does >>>>>>> this (news.mozilla.org) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> According to: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists >>>>>>> There are 4 ways to read the list: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Email when subscribed to the list. >>>>>>> - A Web browser viewing the archives, which are public. >>>>>>> - Usenet with Network News (Transfer|Transport) Protocol, NNTP. >>>>>>> - The mail-to-news gateways linux.debian.* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess my question is how to do the third one. >>>>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You don't need to use a paid server. There are plenty of free ones >>>>>> available. Personally, I use eternal-september.com. It's been >>>>>> pretty >>>>>> solid for me and contains all of the newsgroups I want. No binary >>>>>> newsgroups, but I can life with that. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can't post to Debian from there (because it's just a mirror of >>>>>> the >>>>>> mailing list), but you can post to real newsgroups. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Note that a lot of list-to-usenet gateway software can be >>>>> bi-directional, depending on administrative settings. >>>>> >>>>> As someone pointed out, debian-user is gatewayed to gmane - which, in >>>>> turn, EXPOSES AN NNTP FEED. >>>>> >>>>> Point your newsreader at nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user >>>>> >>>>> If this gets to the list, then one can post through it as well. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Looks like this DID get to the list - so you can read and post through >>>> gmane's USENET i/f. But... it looks like gmane actually posts via >>>> email, not nntp - and the first time you do so, it sends you an email >>>> to confirm your email address. As far as users are concerned, it >>>> doesn't matter - it all just works -- and, I think, it seems to >>>> satisfy a lot of what the OP was asking for. >>>> >>>> Meanwhile, it's not at all clear whether the list-nntp gateway is >>>> bi-directional or not - there's not a lot to be found via google, and >>>> all of what I find is pretty ancient. >>>> >>>> I'll ask around a bit and report back what I find. >>>> >>> >>> Sent an email off to the debian listmaster asking about the gateway. >>> >>> Meanwhile - there seems to be an ancient, possibly unmaintained >>> list-mail gateway - robo...@news.nic.it - which moderates the linux.* >>> newsgroup heirarchy. In order to post through it, you need to register >>> by subscribing to the email list linux-g...@lists.bofh.it -- at >>> http://lists.bofh.it/listinfo/linux-gate >>> >>> It seems to be running - but... when I tried to post a message via the >>> groups.google.com usenet reader - I got an error message from the robot >>> saying that I need to subscribe -- even though I had just subscribed. So >>> it's running, but the posting interface does not work, at least as far >>> as google groups is concerned. >>> >>> Jerry: might be an interesting experiment to see if you can post via >>> eternal-september.com - after subscribing to linux-gate. >>> >>> Miles Fidelman >>> >> >> I bit the bullet and set up an nntp account with eternal-september.org >> - let's see if this gets through with mfidel...@meetinghouse.net as my >> email address (which is registered with the linux-gate robot). >> > > So... looks like it does. So... two ways to access debian-user via USENET: > > 1. via Gmane > - point newsreader at nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user > - first time you try to post to, you'll get a message asking you to > register w/ Gmane - reply to the message > - after that, posts/replies will go through Gmane, via email, to > debian-user > > 2. via eternal-september.org (and presumably any other nntp server that > supports subscribe to linux.debian.user) > - register for an account at eternal-september.org > - go to http://lists.bofh.it/listinfo/linux-gate, subscribe to > linux-g...@lists.bofh.it - to authorize posting > - point newsreader at > news://news.eternal-september.org:119/linux.debian.user (or whatever; > note, probably also supports nttps, but haven't tried) > - you should be good to go > > Note - in both cases, you might have to play games with your "From:" > address --- e.g., for my combined mail/news/rss reader (SeaMonkey): > - subscribing to a newsgroup, creates a new account on the new server > (if it doesn't already exist) > - have to go into the account preferences and enter my email address > (the one I added to linux-gate) > - when posting/replying, I have to be sure to select that account as my > From address (Seamonkey provides a pull-down From: list) > > Cheers all, > > Miles Fidelman > >
Thanks! If this thanks gets through, I will post a slightly different approach.
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