On 2014-09-07 02:30 +0200, lee wrote:
> Slavko <li...@slavino.sk> writes:
>
>> Ahoj,
>>
>> Dňa Sat, 06 Sep 2014 02:08:47 +0200 lee <l...@yun.yagibdah.de> napísal:
>>
>>> Doug <dmcgarr...@optonline.net> writes:
>>>
>>> > It didn't need systemd before, so why should it need it now?
>>>
>>> Debian has decided to feature several init systems, so any dependency
>>> on an init system you're not using because you're using another one
>>> is a bug that needs to be reported and fixed.
>>>
>>
>> I see it in the same manner, and then i agree with you. I see there
>> some questions which need to be answered:
>
> I don't think they will fix the bug because:
>
>
> [~] aptitude why libsystemd-login0
> i xfce4 Depends xfconf (>= 4.8.0)
> i A xfconf Depends dbus-x11
> i A dbus-x11 Depends dbus
> i A dbus Depends libsystemd-login0 (>= 31)
> [~]
>
>
> They must fix dbus to be able to work without systemd first. So I guess
> we need to make a bug report against dbus because it must not depend on
> systemd for Debian to be able to support alternative init systems so
> that users aren't forced into systemd.
Dbus depends on libsystemd-login0, not on systemd. It forces you to use
systemd as much as its dependency on libselinux1 forces you to turn on
selinux, i.e. not at all.
> The concept of free software has become a myth :(
There is always Gentoo if libraries you consider useless bother you.
Binary distributions tend to enable all possibly useful features.
Cheers,
Sven
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