I hestitate to enter this thread, given its nasty tone, so please don't attack me if I pose some non-partisan questions.
An issue came up whether debian Jessie can run without systemd. I'm currently running Wheezy without systemd installed, but I get this: $ dpkg -l "*systemd*" | grep ii ii libsystemd-daemon0:i386 44-11+deb7u4 i386 systemd utility library ii libsystemd-login0:i386 44-11+deb7u4 i386 systemd login utility library As best I can make out, these libraries are there so that daemons and log-in services that are designed to run under systemd will continue to function. Can I remove these two packages and still have my old line applications, like emacs, continue to function? Next spring I'll likely upgrade to Jessie, and it seems that Jessie will use systemd. A question came up but was never answered whether Jessie can install sysvinit and make use of it instead of systemd. What is the answer? My wife used to run Windows and has now fled to a Mac. When things went wrong on her Windows machine, I found them very difficult to fix. More often than not I could only reboot and cross my fingers. On the other hand, if I spend some time, I usually can fix Debian problems. Will the expansion of systemd to acquire a monothic control over my system mean that a non-expert like myself will be less able to maintain their system? Haines Brown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140901221729.gb8...@historicalmaterialism.info