On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Erwan David <er...@rail.eu.org> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:06:51AM CEST, Michael Biebl <bi...@debian.org> > said: >> Am 22.07.2014 19:22, schrieb Erwan David: >>> Le 22/07/2014 18:59, Michael Biebl a écrit : >>>> Am 22.07.2014 18:24, schrieb The Wanderer: >>>> >>>>> As far as I can see, there is no way to get init-system log messages >>>>> without also getting kernel log messages >>>> Of course there is. >>>> >>>> Might help if you actually tried it before commenting on it? >>>> >>>> The systemd.* specific flags override the global quiet flag. The >>>> >>>> So you can very well keep the quiet kernel command line argument and use >>>> >>>> systemd.show_status=true|false >>>> systemd.sysv_console=true|false >>>> systemd.log_level=... >>>> systemd.log_target=... >>>> >>>> etc. to control in a very fine grained manner, how the data is logged. >>> >>> It would be interesting if the default was not changed, ie. same >>> behaviour when using the default configuration. >> >> The default wasn't changed, really. >> It's simply that SysV init scripts are so horribly inconsistent and >> interpret the "quiet" parameter differently. So we don't have a >> consistent behaviour wrt to logging and output. > > The defauklt was changed in that nomessage at all, no sign of any > progression is NOT the former behaviour. >> >> The example skeleton SysV init script /etc/init.d/skeleton, which is >> supposed to be a base for newly written init scripts uses >> /lib/init/init-d-script. If you take a look at that script, you'll see >> that prefixes its log message with [ "$VERBOSE" != no ] && log_*_msg >> >> And surprise, VERBOSE is set to "no" by /lib/init/vars.sh if the kernel >> command line contains "quiet". >> >> Thankfully, this is all fixed now with systemd, where you have a >> consistent and central place to configure that. > > NO it ids NOT fixed,k because what imports is NOT the theory but the > actual behaviour. The actual behaviour is changed, and the new one is > more than disturbing.
The behavior of the boot messages hasn't changed for me and according to the systemd man pages it shouldn't. So your setup must be different. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=sx-so_i4nat1k2vo8hjtntjqwka72eueakuhys1-vm...@mail.gmail.com