On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Ron Jr wrote:

> On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 18:39, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> > > I opened this hotmail account specifically for posting to this list.  This 
> > > is my fourth post in 2 days.  So far, no spam, including no SWEN.  Could we 
> > > finally be seein the end of this mess?

nope ...

different people get different amts of junk

i was getting hundreds per day ... but now its just one-z two-z per
hour and i REJECT those incoming junk  ... hopefully bouncing
the junk back to them or the machine sending it out
        - each new one finds itself added to the "sven" list

daily rate incming rate is still the same... 
( just more being bounced that i dont see )

- quickie analysis of where that junk comes from into just 1 of my emails:

        - 75% are from mis-managed clusters 
        and usually corresponds to times when people get to work
        or get off work or after dinner ...
        ( times when their pcs get turned on and goes out thru their mta )

        - coming from about 1325 mis-managed mta so far

        and about 2,000 of um were bounced back to the mis-managed mta

- if you bounce it .. that one mta cant send or receive any more mail 

c ya
alvin


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