On 20140519_1645+0100, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 20 May 2014 at 01:16:34 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Brian <a...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> > > (presumably quoting someone else's post)
> > >    Per 6.3.2, I use my casting vote to choose D as the winner.
> > 
> > Sorry for the dumb question, but what does the section number refer
> > to? I feel I've missed some context here.
> 
> The section number:
> 
>    https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution
> 
> The context and the mail I quoted from:
> 
>    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727708

At this point in reading this long thread, I broke off on it
and started reading the long thread on bug=727708. In that I
discovered the claim that Systemd will never support or be
compatible with either BSD or HURD. I surmise, on my very 
limited knowledge that this is because only Linux implements
Linux cgroups, and/or because Linux implements some other
feature that is made possible by cgroups. But there was a time
when this was not true of Linux. Cgroups are a recent addition
to Linux, a kind of 'disruptive' technology. 

I wonder why it is assumed that BSD and/or HURD could not be 
modified (improved ;-) to also support cgroups. Personally,
I am intrigued by the claims made for cgroups, and systemd.
Are they really so disruptive as they appear to be. There
certainly is a lot of disruption here on this list. Can the
forces of caution really overcome the forces of progress?
If Debian succeeds with systemd, as I hope it will, how long
will it take the developers of BSD and/or HURD to implement
a forward looking response? Not long, I guess. 

But this post is here, not because I know, but in order to
provoke some intelligent, reasoned, and informed discussion
of this suggestion.

Have at it, intelligent people ;-)

-- 
Paul E Condon           
pecon...@mesanetworks.net


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