On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 05:48:28PM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
> Le 19/05/2014 15:55, Patrick Wiseman a écrit :
> > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Hans <hans.ullr...@loop.de> wrote:
> >>> What am I doing wrong?
> >> I got this problem, when I had network-manager installed, too. It looked 
> >> for
> >> me, like they do not want exist together. I have no explanantion for it, 
> >> but
> >> deinstalling and purging all network-manager packages fixed the problem.
> >>
> >> On the other hand, network-manager is now state-of-the-art, so maybe it 
> >> will
> >> be your choice, too.
> > For my part, I prefer network-manager. wicd wouldn't do vpn when I
> > made that decision, and that may have changed.
> 
> When I looked at it network-manager had big problems with openvpn :
> instead of importing a config file "as is" it extracted the part of
> config file it knew, dropping the rest. In my case that meant it did not
> setup an IPv6 tunnel, thus letting all IPv6 communication go clear...
> 
> >> However, if you do not use gnome, the installation of the network-manager
> >> package will install tons of unneeded gnome crap.
> > Really? I use xfce in preference to Gnome, and I have network-manager
> > installed. Much of what n-m _depends_ on seems probably necessary to
> > its functionality; it may be that it _recommends_ "unneeded gnome
> > crap," but you are free to reject those recommendations.
> 
> XFCE is based on tk thus you already have a big bunch of gnome stuff...

Actually, both XFCE and Gnome use GTK. But that's neither here nor
there. It's possible to run XFCE without Gnome components just as easily
as it is to run XFCE with a "big bunch" of KDE stuff.

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