Brian <a...@cityscape.co.uk> writes:

> There is an implication here that you think exim (or sendmail) is to be
> manipulated directly. That is not the case. It is a daemon which listens
> and which deals with mail *which is sent from a client*. The client
> interacts with Debian's exim and exim, if the setup is sane, processes
> the message. The transaction is recorded in /var/log/exim4/mainlog.

I'm not interested in whether exim, sendmail or postfix are what I
need.  I don't know for sure and don't care right now. I'm attempting
to get setup with exim.

Are any of them meant to be manipulated directly ? YES.  Each one has
some technique for direct manipulation when attempting to locate
problems.  Is that an intended method to uncover problems YES in all
three cases.

Is the general use pattern expected to be direct manipulation... NO. 
What does that have to do with my question? I'm not asking about
general use patterns.

So again, my question is fairly straight forward... how can I
manipulate exim directly from the command line, and increase the
verbosity level of that mail handling program?

If you know the answer to that, and I assume you do since you did say
that examples abound ... I cannot find a single one of what I
asked about.

Perhaps you know of many and can provide a specific url or pointer?

PS -  I have already gone thru every step you laid out except all the
needless uninstalling and installing.

Went thru the config... I can not tell from log output why my mail is
not sent or delivered.  I want to see more verbose output of the smtp
conversation at the smart host.

This kind of output is not very helpful:

  reader > delivering 1WmLdz-0002JS-5L
  R: smarthost for hp...@fastmail.fm
  T: remote_smtp_smarthost for hp...@fastmail.fm
  LOG: retry_defer MAIN
    == hp...@fastmail.fm R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer
    (-53): retry time not reached for any host

or the mainlog outpout:

   2014-05-19 07:26:28 1WmLha-0002Jl-7o == hp...@fastmail.fm
   R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-53): retry time not
   reached for any host

   2014-05-19 07:26:28 1WmESz-0001Pb-KN == hp...@fastmail.fm
   R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-53): retry time not
   reached for any host

   2014-05-19 07:26:28 1WmET8-0001Ph-Oa == hp...@fastmail.fm
   R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-53): retry time not
   reached for any host

   2014-05-19 07:26:28 1WmLdz-0002JS-5L == hp...@fastmail.fm
   R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-53): retry time not
   reached for any host

   2014-05-19 07:26:28 1WmEYb-0001VW-VF == hp...@fastmail.fm
   R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-53): retry time not
   reached for any host

   2014-05-19 07:26:28 End queue run: pid=9206

   2014-05-19 07:26:45 1WmLiP-0002Oi-Ru <= rea...@vd.local.lan
   U=reader P=local S=539

   2014-05-19 07:26:45 1WmLiP-0002Oi-Ru == hp...@fastmail.fm
   R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-53): retry time not
   reached for any host

There seems to be little or nothing there that explains what has
happened at the smarthost... in enough detail.

If anyone knows how to manage any of what I asked about ... please
respond.


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