On 19/04/14 16:51, Tom Furie wrote:> On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 02:33:43PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 19/04/14 07:55, Joe wrote: > >>> As is the light originating inside peoples' homes and passing out >>> of their windows. In which case it is arguable that it is >>> perfectly acceptable to collect and record that light with a >>> camera without asking the permission of those who own the home >>> and/or who have modified the light... >> >> Most countries don't provide legislative protection from the gaze >> of people passing by. For reasons of sanity, and something to do >> with the concept of free will (and personal responsibility). > > There is a very large difference between the gaze of passers-by and > actively attempting to see something, especially where recording > equipment is involved.
Yes. And in most cases the legislation reflects that. i.e. it's legal to photograph you sunning yourself through you window - if I take the picture from the street (public place) - but not if I use a telescopic lens. Not dissimilar from the difference between recording wireless broadcasts and recording the (resonant) response from wireless equipment when you transmit a high power signal at it. Note that in some places it's perfectly legal for an individual to WARdrive, and in some cases the local police have done so as "community relations" - but when a Google Maps car does the same thing the courts decide it's punishable with a fine. Regards of the medium or means - it seems the individual is arguing that what they do in public space is private. Whereas I propose that what you do behind curtains or a faraday cage *is* private[*1] - what you do in public space, or on the networks and resources of others is not. [*1] private as in "on private property", not as in "I don't wish to share". There is a belief that any gathering of information without the express permission of the individual is "invasive". When that belief extends to information that is publicly *disseminated* that belief is oxymoronic. "unwanted" != "invasive". Taking DNA samples from me *is* invasive (it invades my personal space), taking DNA samples from cells I drop in public spaces *is not* invasive (it's just creepy). > > Cheers, Tom > That's not to say I have nothing to hide (I wear pants and use curtains), just that I don't believe pissing up a rope or relying on mind over matter are productive exercises. Kind regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53522bed.1080...@gmail.com
