I myself do not like systemd either. Why don't I go use some other distro since a vote was won on some corner mailing list by a grand total of 4 people infavor and 4 people against about one week ago??
Well: Debian is the universal operating system. I shouldn't have to. Everyone, here it is again: "You do not like systemd, then get out" Simple mantra repeated by the systemd men and women. I should be able to chose my init system, just as I am able to chose my kernel, my window manager, my email client, everything. Linux IS about choice. Debian doubly so. Debian IS the universal operating system, and that is not just a slogan. Secondly, just about every upstream linux distro has been target by and has been caused to switch to systemd. All the rest of the distros are mostly derivatives of the 8 big ones. There is no choice anymore, practically Any dissent has been banned and purged from a number of them. I should not have to forgo all the packages of debian, all my experiance with debian (13 years), because four people deciced I and everyone of the thousands of debian developers and debian users should use systemd and that is it. The people who make debian are not beholden to gnome, systemd, redhat. The people on that committie might be. The people like me who are opensource programmers do not have to just accept the decision of the systemd backers. You keep pushing us and pushing us and conquering our community projects. This will have consequences. --- litt...@gmail.com wrote: From: "Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com" <litt...@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - SysV is FINE. Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 17:21:09 -0500 On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 19:26:48 -0800 "Natural Linux" <naturalli...@dcemail.com> wrote: > System V is NOT hard to "maintain" > The scripts were written YEARS ago. They're fine. They do NOT need to > be changed. Debian SysV has concurrent boot aswell. Hey Natural Linux You and I are different. When I post, I put my real name because I'm proud of who I am, what I do, and I want people to know me. When I post to tech lists, I usually leave my rage about politics out of my post, unless the politics directly involves technologists, such as H1-B etc. Just like you, I sometimes get angry. But I try to leave anger out of my emails, because it ruins credibility. Just like you, I have my likes and dislikes, and sometimes I rant. Like about KDE and Kmail. But when I do, I don't go on a KDE list or Kmail list to rant about these things, because I long ago found found Xfce and Claws-Mail (or Mutt or Thunderbird) as substitutes. So, instead of yelling at the Kmail guys, on the Claws-Mail list I gloat about how much better Claws-Mail is than Kmail, and help Kmail refuges to transition to Claws-Mail. I don't waste of time telling Kmail fans how bad their product is. Life's too short, and I have a life. You don't like Debian's choice. That's cool. There are lots of distros out there. And it sounds to me like it might be doable to replace your distro's chosen initialization. Rather than tell Debian people how stupid the Debian choice was, why don't you just choose another distro? Why don't you just find a distro not using systemd, switch to it, join *their* list, and gloat how much better their distro is than Debian. Do that, and you can even use your real name proudly. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140303172109.7b255938@mydesk _____________________________________________________________ Free e-mail, simple, clean and easy to use. Visit CosmicEmail.com for your instant free account. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140303160221.529de...@m0005296.ppops.net
