On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 12:44 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > If you want to avoid GNOME then I would install either 'xdm' or > 'lightdm' and then install 'xfce4'. It is much more likely to operate > correctly and successfully.
Confirmed! LightDM + Xfce does cause less issues on all distros I tested. I try to replace Xfce, because it has got some weak points, but I still recommend Xfce and I don't know if I'll find a DE to replace it, maybe I stay with Xfce. GNOME3, Mate, and Cinnamon are no-gos. I suspect Enlightenment will be a no-go forever too, but I have given up to test it again. If you don't have high standards, just use a WM or Fluxbox, Ion or something that lightweight. I'm testing KDE4 again and I also perhaps will take a look at LXDE again. My problems with large DEs, such as GNOME and KDE is, that while all DEs have weak points, the heavy weight DEs like GNOME and KDE tend to make dependencies hard dependencies, that should be optional and they are so huge that it's hard to find a culprit, if something does annoy you. A small DE usually has more optional, than hard dependencies and if something is bad, it's easy to find and remove. An example of such a thing that annoys me is a buggy virtual file thingy. For Xfce it was easy to find and to remove the HDD killer. GVFS does wake up "green" drives again and again. The same HDD killer is used by GNOME, but for GNOME it's not an optional, but a hard dependency, so it's a little bit more work to remove it. KDE has got such a HDD killer too, but I still need to find it. If I should know what does kill the HDDs (KIO, Nepomuk or whatever else), then it might be a hard dependency, maybe easy, but perhaps impossible to remove. Everything with GTK/GNOME dependencies has got a huge risk to fail. GTK2 is ok, but asking to switch to GTK3 and then the fun begins. each update then will be a lottery. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1385758286.9366.38.camel@archlinux
