Hi. On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 15:35:40 +0100 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> > > Le 01.11.2013 10:23, Reco a écrit : > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 09:58:26PM +0100, > > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > >> That's not gnome which changes the boot process. It's systemd. It > >> simply happens that gnome depends on systemd in Debian build. > >> Since AFAIK gnome is still available on platforms not based on linux > >> kernel, unlike systemd, I really think that it's gnome maintainer's > >> choice to have this hard dependency. > > > > One of GNOME developers says that: > > > > > > http://blogs.gnome.org/ovitters/2013/09/25/gnome-and-logindsystemd-thoughts/ > > > > Apparently GDM 3.8 assumes that an init system will also clean up any > > processes it started. This is what systemd does, but OpenRC didn’t > > support that. Which means that GDM under OpenRC would leave lingering > > processes around, making it impossible to restart/shutdown GDM > > properly. > > > > Debian GNOME packagers are planning the same AFAIK; they rather just > > rely on systemd … > > > > > > So, Debian maintainers had a choice: make systemd an dependency to > > GDM. > > Or, ship GDM that behaves funny. > > So the problem is that only systemd which is able to manage daemon's > lives? I mean, if another tools was able (maybe upstart or any other, I > have no idea if one does the same thing) to control daemons' lives, it > could be used instead of systemd without any problem? For this specific daemon - yes, it's can be managed correctly by systemd only. At least, the man says so. The reason is (the way I see it) - GDM is now designed with systemd in mind, it does nothing to cleanup after itself. You use anything other than systemd to start GDM, try to stop GDM - it leaves gdm* processes. No other daemon known to me behaves like that. > > PS: was it intended to send that reply only to me and not to the list? OOPS. No, it was intended for the list. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131101200725.fb57b47135652659a072a...@gmail.com
