On 21/10/13 06:01 AM, Curt wrote:
On 2013-10-21, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
The OP mentioned that using Suse there are no issues.
The OP mentioned that using Debian there are issues.
We don't know what does cause the issue.
We may never know.
We try to troubleshoot by checking what software might or might not
cause the issue.
Well, so far, following your instructions, he has removed gvfs, but the
man hasn't said what effect, if any, that had on the random clicking
syndrome he's experiencing; rather he began worrying about how
he was going to mount external devices in the future.
Manipulating the hardware during this process is counterproductive.
We already agreed on this point (well, that hardware manipulation was a
last resort if the problem couldn't be resolved by the "software removal
method").
"so I'll remove the cause.../ [chuckles] but not the symptom"
- Dr. Frank N. Furter
Manipulating the HDD might remove the symptom, but not the cause and in
this case we really want to know the cause, to repair it and get rid of
the symptom too.
I defer to your respected opinion, Herr Doctor Mardorf. Let us hope
together that surgery will prove to be unnecessary in this case.
I should first summarize again my system:
Model: HP Pavilion dm1 3240ca
Hard disk: SAMSUNG SpinPoint M7E (AFT), I took this info from gsmartcontrol
I guess these are the relevant parts to the discussion. After the
purchase, I had briefly read the document. I do not remember perfectly
but it was saying that my hard disk has shock protection, it would stop
in case I drop it or apply sudden shocks. Unfortunately, I cannot quote
it exactly because I throw the brief manual to the garbage.
The reason I consider playing with HDParm value is the article Curt
sent. To my understanding, the article says that if I hear the click, my
hard disc either has shock protection system or is about to die. I
bought this laptop about 2 years ago and I don't believe that my hard
disk is old and about to die. So the other scenario seems logical to me.
But again, I am not computer literate and definitely not a linux expert.
Thus, there is a chance that I am wrong.
Just to everyone's knowledge; this laptop is doing well with the
following distros (at least I didn't hear any clicks when I was using them):
* Opensuse
* Fedora
* Manjaro
Among the three, I doubt that Fedora cared about customizing HDParm to
spin down my hard disk. Fedora is known to be an upstream distro not an
optimized one. I have serious doubts about Manjaro as well. I don't want
to use both Fedora and Manjaro as production machines anyway in case I
fail to address my problem with Debian.
The only choice left is OpenSUSE, which is known for attention to detail
and it may be the one that would address HDParm problem in case it is
the case. But if it is indeed the problem, why is my machine doing well
with Fedora and Manjaro?
What is more surprising that the Xubuntu and Ubuntu also have the same
problem with my machine. I can understand that Debian would have this
issue since this is not their priority, but for a distro like Ubuntu
which claims to be for everyone is not understandable.
S. Sahin
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