berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:


Le 08.10.2013 16:15, Richard Owlett a écrit :
[snip]

I'm experimenting with a very lean idiosyncratic install. It
sounds
as aptitude will be appropriate for me. Off to read man pages
etc ;)

Don't copy me! xD
More seriously, without aptitude, I would probably not be with
debian ( probably I would have stayed with windows, that I known
better some years ago ), and it is really that tool which allowed
me to have fast as lighting computers built from low-price
hardware ( but no one that I know could use any of my systems if
I am far away ).

You might also be interested by dselect, I have read about it
several times, but never took enough time to really discover it.

My first moves when installing a new system: uncheck all ( yes,
including basic tools ) checkboxes while installing, booting on
the new system, disabling in aptitude the automatic install of
recommended stuff, and install only packages that I invoke by
myself.

Sometimes I take some fun to also purge all packages ( yes, all
of them: go to root entry of aptitude and then press '_' ) to add
them back one by one in the preview, marking all packages I do
not remove as automatically installed ( so that they'll go away
when there will be no reason to keep them ). It's nice to see
that Debian still install some tools which are not really needed
when you uncheck everything at install time.

Be careful, that way to install a computer is the best one to
install broken systems :) but I'll bet that you know that ( it's
more a disclaimer for people who could fall on that mail )


AMEN to last paragraph. But those broken systems can be educational. I'm a newbie whose learning style is very hands on, with a laptop devoted ONLY to experimenting with installs. Yesterday's education was titled "How small can a NEWBIE make a working XFCE system?".

Your post, among others, encouraged me to try leaving "basic tools" unchecked. I followed with "apt-get --no-install-recommends lightdm xfce4". On reboot I got a blinking cursor. ONLY a blinking cursor - couldn't discover a way to do anything. Got to a terminal, purged lightdm and xfce4 and reinstalled.

The lesson learned? That whether or not something is a dependency is in eyes of beholder. LOL

Beneficial side effect - guided reading of the description/recommends/suggests fields of packages.




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