On Monday 20 May 2013 11:05:53 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> Dear Andrei
>
> > Dear Hans-J, could you please clarify your terminology? What do you mean
> > by 'automatically update' in above paragraph? Which one of the following
> > do you mean:
> >
> > 1. I have <package> version 1 and expected version 2~bpo from backports
> > to be installed
>
> What I meant was "I have <package> bla-3.0 installed (from debian/stable) 
> and expected version 4~bpo from wheezy-backports upgraded.

Here we have it!!  Packages will only be upgraded from backports if they were 
installed from backports.  If you want backports you have to say so 
explicitly.

[snip]

> > And "did it manually"?  Could you tell us clearly and specifically what
> > you did and what happened, preferably with quotes from the command line.
>
> With "manually", I meant, that I walked with the cursor to all the packages
> and its libs by pressing "+" and "-" to mark them as install or remove. I
> know, the dependencies should be fullfilled by aptitude automatically, but
> this worked not well. I had to fine tune a little bit.
>
> > As I said, backported packages will both update and upgrade, when there
> > is an upgrade available in backports.
>
> It should, but did not. I think, it is, because wheezy-backports got a
> lower pinning ranking.

It does.  The lower pinning is to prevent backports from upgrading your whole 
installation.  If you install from Stable and do not change your 
sources.list, upgrades will only be taken from Stable.  To repeat what I said 
earlier, packages from backports _and_ _only_ packages from
backports will be upgraded from backports.  If you change the pinning so that 
everything is upgraded from backports, you are likely to land in quite a 
mess.

You have been imprecise in several of your statements.  I even, to my shame, 
caught it and referred to updates when I should have said upgrades.  Apart 
from that, Andrei and I are being precise.  You must take what we say 
literally.

Andrei is one of the most knowledgeable and helpful of the people on this 
list.  He is also very experienced.  You appear to be relatively new to 
Debian.  If you disagree with Andrei, it is a safe bet that it is Andrei who 
is right.  You ought to look at where you are mistaken, not tell Andrei that 
he is wrong. 

You have clearly misunderstood what backports are and how backports operate.  
So I repeat:  packages from backports, and ONLY packages from backports, are 
updated from backports.

Lisi


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