On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 05:15:54AM +0200, Dirk wrote: > On 05/20/13 04:57, staticsafe wrote: > >On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 02:59:43AM +0200, Dirk wrote: > >>hello, > >> > >>do I see that right that vga=ask has been removed in grub2 without > >>offering a working replacement? because all those gfxpayload=bla bs > >>i found online surely doesn't work... > >> > >>so i reverted to grub-legacy... > >> > >>doesn't anybody check the crap that makes it into debian anymore? > > > > > >I would love for you to tell that to the face of the Debian developers > >who work very hard on every release. > > i know they work hard.. that is probably the reason why such rather > subtle regressions escape them.. >
One man's regression is another man's progression. Either way, somebody noticed the change and put up the wiki page I linked. > >> > >>because when i look in the documentation of the linux kernel it sure > >>says that vga=ask is still there... > >> > >>but something retarded as a boot loader removes kernel options now? > > > >Althought the vga=ext option is deprecated with the linux command in > >Grub2, it is still available with the linux16 command in Grub2 as it is > >with the linux command in Grub-legacy. If Grub2 displays "vga=ext is > >deprecated. Use set gfxpayload=text before linux command instead" you > >don't need to downgrade to grub-legacy. Just replace linux and initrd by > >linux16 and initrd16 in each menuentry bloc you want to use VGA mode and > >add vga=ext or vga=F01 near the end of the linux16 line to get 80x50 > >text consoles instead of framebuffer. You may also replace ext by F00, > >F01, F02, F03, F05, F06 or F07 to get alternate VGA text resolutions > >(respectively 80x25, 80x50, 80x43, 80x28, 80x30, 80x34 and 80x60). Use > >vga=ask to get a chance at boot time to list all available VGA/VESA > >resolutions and chose one interactively before Grub2 passes control to > >the kernel. If you edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg instead of > >/etc/grub.d/10_linux remember your changes will be dropped if > >update-grub is launched. By the way, vga=normal is equivalent to vga=F00 > >and vga=ext is equivalent to vga=F01. > > > >- > >http://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransition#fndef-231bbb76472490d8f289f110d30d2d982e08a663-0 > > thanks for your effort explaining this... > > but... i ask myself: /why/ i am supposed to read and memorize all > this when even /lilo/ is still working...? > > lilo, then grub, then grub2... no real change in functionality... a > kernel gets booted.. that's it... but all three function > differently... > > it is like someone wants to keep frustrating 08/15-users before > linux has even booted... You can use Lilo if you so choose, but don't expect integration (specifically kernel package installation scripts). The Debian developers (and many other distros) have chosen to put their support behind GRUB2 which allows for (please correct me, if I'm wrong) features like UEFI support and better support for automation. Another note, GRUB2 is more similar to Lilo than you think. > > >> > >>wow... just wow.. i thought the linux desktop would have tiles like > >>windows8 but this is even worse... a bootloader breaks the kernel > >>features... > >> > >>it really shows that linux is used by too many idiots now... > >> > > > >Perhaps you are referring to yourself there? > > no i refer to people to whom it doesn't make a difference if they > use windows or linux... people who do not care... but to whom > everyone is catering and ruining linux as an operating system.. > > just look at all the bloat the ubuntu desktop requires to "start a > program by clicking on a little icon"... it is a total joke.. > I use Debian partly because it is not a distro like that. > >>i'll start a wiki on this bullshit.. how linux step-by-step becomes > >>a badly re-invented windows.. as a warning for freebsd... > >> > >>i don't care about the user base my OS of choice has... but the > >>linux marketing has started writing the linux code now.. so it is > >>bye bye... > > > >Goodbye, and don't let the door hit you on the way out. > > > > not so fast.. there is still gentoo... :( Gentoo does seem more like what you want. > > > Dirk > -- staticsafe O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org Please don't top post - http://goo.gl/YrmAb Don't CC me! I'm subscribed to whatever list I just posted on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130520040409.gc17...@uriel.asininetech.com
