I agree with Hans. For instance, I had a sid box back in the day which was
my dhcp server (an old laptop). It was behind a firewall, and not
accessible from the internet. (I know, no security is 100%, but i have
defense in depth.) Plus, I too had built a minimal kernel.

In any case, my record is somewhere around 700 days, just short of 2 years.
Then we had a power outage that burned through the UPS and the laptop
battery...



On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich <hans.ullr...@loop.de>wrote:

> It is interesting. Whenever I someone is telling of big uptime, the
> arguiment
> is:
>
> Your server can not be secure! You have an old kernel! You MUST
> install/update
> the newest kernel and of course reboot.
>
> But this is not correct. For which reason a new kernel is necessary?
>
> 1. If there are extrem changes in the environment (unsupported new
> hardware or
> major software changes)
>
> 2. Security issues
>
> But a kernel can stay very, verry long time. On machines, where you do not
> change hard or software  (i.e. new filesystems like btrfs), an old kernel
> will
> work perfectly.
>
> Security issues, which affect modules, but not the kernel itself, may not
> cause
> the need of a new kernel. When people lik me and others on this list, are
> using a very small kernel, with minimalistic modules, and the security
> issues
> affect modules, which are not built nor installed, then there is no need,
> to
> install a new kernel.
>
> So it is wrong to conclude and to say: Hey, your uptime is high, this
> concludes to an unsecure host due to an old kernel. To say so, is a big
> mistake!
>
> Just to clear things. :)
>
> Anyway, let's have fun at hacking.
>
> Best regards
>
> Hans
>
>
>
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