Le 01.02.2013 22:08, Gary Dale a écrit :
On 01/02/13 03:29 PM, Николай wrote:
Hello! Your system is translated on the set of languages. Although
each user wants to see the system in their own language, but the disk
in addition to its native language has many language packs that 99% of
users never will be used. Why not share all of the disk images on the
languages? For example: if a user wants to have a system in the
German language, he is invited to download a disk image with the
package only in German. If the user has Russian - only in Russian. So
he will be available as a system translated to his native language,
and he will not be there to download not translated content systems or
programs. I am sure that many of the programs (packages), going to 8
drives with a system not available in my native language! Then why do
I download them? I spend time on your system, half of which I later
need to be translated? Linux will not be popular, while "not speak"
normally in all languages other than English.
Please communicated this message to the entire Linux community.
Otherwise, the system will not take or when personal computers in Most
of users. Quality and complete translation - the key popularity of any
system, whatever it was. Otherwise, even the simplest things are not
self-explanatory.
The amount of space taken up by the various languages is small. It's
better to just have the various languages available so people can
download a single installer and choose.
Internationalization has moved most of the language-specific items
out from the binary code that makes up the bulk of the downloaded
installation.
I think he was wondering about default starting language of
installation images.
Of course, the first question in installer is to ask user's language,
but every steps before that is in English. I can understand what the OP
means.
The reason I can see to not do one image per language is about space on
servers.
About the will of making linux coming on most computers... All of us
does not share it. In my opinion, well, it would be interesting. But if
it does not happen, it does not matter.
And when you say "Otherwise, even the simplest things are not
self-explanatory." can you objectively say that on the most widely
distributed OS, this goal is achieved?
If so, consider asking to enterprises how many teaching the system
usages to users costs. What I have seen is that many users just randomly
click here and there, and some have problems simply understanding that a
screen needs to be powered-on.
Then, take a look at windows 8. I would never have guessed how to close
a window if I did not see on a forum how to do it before. Just a sample.
Computers, and OSes, are not easy to use correctly. As all tools, in
fact. Ask about digging to someone who does that all the day, and you
may be surprised by all the "obvious" things (for him, at least) you do
not know.
The difference with computing, is that digging is (far) more than 20
centuries old, when "computing for everyone" is less than 20 years old.
OT:
But thinking about that, I remember that each time I do an update with
aptitude (or apt-get), translations for all languages are checked, and
when you do regular updates, you spend most of the time downloading
those translations. Then, to gain space, sometimes several hundreds of
MB (at first run), you will run localepurge.
All of this loss of time and bandwidth (for both server and client,
about bandwidth) could be avoided if it was possible to fully remove all
unused languages of Debian. I have no idea about the fact it is possible
or not...
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