On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:18:37 +0100, Martin Steigerwald <mar...@lichtvoll.de> wrote:

Sorry, hit send accidentally.

Am Sonntag, 27. Januar 2013 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:05:01 +0100, Martin Steigerwald

<mar...@lichtvoll.de> wrote:
> Only thing that broke was ContentNegotiation with Apache, still want to
> write a bug report about it, cause its easily fixable when one knows
> where to look.

And compared to other distros, what bugs did appear for those other
distros, where you run release updates?

I donĀ“t use other distros.

But you called Debian the mother of all.

However, Debian tends to completely break production environments, if you update. I used Debian because it was said, that I'm not forced to use pulseaudio, that was correct, for two days, then I updated and got pulseaudio as a hard dependency, without a warning, there were no changelogs about this issue, that did break audio completely. This wasn't the only issue ;).

It's not an issue for me, I know how to solve such issues, Debian is a good distro, but other distros aren't less good, especially for newbies it _might_ be saver to update other distros, since other distros include firmware by their distros, so there's no need to add third party repositories for those distros, especially rolling releases don't force you to install bad software that only is a hard dependency by upstream, but Debian does.

Just because it works for your needs, btw. still with a bug, doesn't mean that there aren't other distros that are more user friendly and safer especially for newbies.

Such discussions IMO shouldn't be about which policy, distro is the best, who has more or less knowledge, it should be about real experiences, with different environments. If people don't have experiences, they should make clear, that they have a special environment and experiences with this special environment, it does work and in this case can be updated without an issue.

But please, don't claim Debian is the mother of updates. It isn't!

Regards,
Ralf


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