Tony van der Hoff <t...@vanderhoff.org> writes: > On 12/09/12 02:01, lee wrote: >> Tom Rausner <t...@rausner.dk> writes: >> >>> Generally I would agree and I was looking at MSI and ASUS to start with. >>> I just happened to clap my eyes on this one "by accident" -and liked it. >> >> Get an MSI board if you can. Asus sucks and Gigabyte is the worst crap >> you can get. I don't have any experience with Asrock, though. >> >> > I read your 'installation' post, and thought "this guy talks sense",
:) > so this comes as a severe let-down. > > I've never had a problem with ASUS boards. YMMV, but let's see some > justification for your rubbishing ASUS and Gigabyte. Sigh, I was expecting that someone would ask. I've had an Asus board (because the specifications looked better than those for the comparable one from MSI) with a fan on it which made a lot of noise, and it was impossible to update the BIOS because they required you to have windoze installed for that, which of course I don't have. Their support is non-existent. Other than that, they aren't the worst you can get, and because of my experience I recommend to stay away from them. Gigabyte is a long story. I've seen a couple Gigabyte boards at work and all of them had issues, one being dead after a few days, another one never even worked. Then later I made the mistake to get one myself because I couldn't get any other. That board wasn't able to detect the hard disks when AHCI was enabled and wasn't very stable with all kinds of weird problems. Their support was totally clueless and unwilling to help. They had even something in the BIOS that would try to reserve some space on an arbitrary hard disk and write data to it, so the BIOS might just overwrite whatever you have on that disk. They called it a feature, and you couldn't turn it off. The disks that the board was unable to detect work fine with MSI boards, I'm still using them. With MSI bords, I've made good experiences. I even used them to build servers at work and they worked flawless over the years. I've had one broken at home after IIRC almost two years (still under warranty), and that was probably my fault when I made a mistake when installing a huge CPU cooler. It didn't show CPU temperatures in the BIOS anymore right after that and sometimes wouldn't start when switched on until more than half a year or so later it finally didn't start at all when switched on. I replaced it with the one I have now, also MSI. It was cheap one and it works great, even making me think that the more expensive boards with more features suffer from their complexity. The mic input of the on-board sound card is dead ever since audacious did something to it --- after warning me, so it's also more my or audacious' fault than one of the board. I don't need justification ... It's only my experience, and when I make good experiences with something from a particular manufacturer, I tend very much to buy from them again. When I make bad experiences with something from a manufacturer, I tend very much /not/ to buy from them again. My recommendations are accordingly. I really don't like hardware trouble. You end up buying twice and wasting a lot of time and money. Of course, YMMV ... Does that make sense to you? :) -- Debian testing amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87a9wuvd87....@yun.yagibdah.de