On Tuesday 11 September 2012 20:29:42 Weaver wrote: > On Tue, September 11, 2012 7:43 am, lee wrote: > > "Weaver" <wea...@riseup.net> writes: > >> On Mon, September 10, 2012 8:19 am, Chris Bannister wrote: > >>> Agreed. But the person who wants to install Debian is not the average > >>> end/home user. > >> > >> Exactly, but that's the majority market and I don't see anything wrong > >> woth aiming for that. > > > > Now that is distorting the discussion, isn't it? ;) > > No, it isn't. > Why the average end user tries to install Debian and gives up, or doesn't > even try in the first place, is because a lack of knowledge creates > uncertainty and doubt and, in the end, rejection. > > I am advocating the elimination of that lack of knowledge. > > Many people would be looking at the number of downloads as an indication > of uptake percentage. > Many people would be wrong. > > Just a little bit of information could change that massively. > Regards, > > Weaver > -- > "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its > government." -- Thomas Paine
May I but in on this?? The question at issue is whether a newbie could install Debian without help, if I have understood correctly. There was a time when one could install a default system just by accepting the defaults, i.e. by just pressing enter. I know someone who did it. Since Squeeze I think that Debian has removed itself from this market. The main repository and kernel contain only FLOSS software. I.e. many drivers are missing and have to be separately installed. This is beyond a total newbie, and I think could not be rendered easily attainable by attaching a set of instructions. So sadly, I have come to the conclusion that I must recommend e.g. Linux Mint if any newbie who wishes to self-install were to ask me for my opinion. I have, incidentally, had to answer a question about partitions during a Windows install! (XP I think.) I apologise to anyone who feels that my use of English is pompous. I think that to try and talk in baby talk is insulting to those for whom English is a second language (or third or fourth!). Not to mention the fact that I simply don't know which words I can expect someone else to know. Much better in my opinion (and it is only a matter of opinion) to talk properly to foreigners and children. How else can they enlarge their vocabularies? I am more than willing to explain anything that I have said that someone finds incomprehensible. And if someone is hesitant about asking "in public", please feel free to email me off list to ask. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209112117.52983.lisi.re...@gmail.com