On Thu 09 Aug 2012 at 13:59:20 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

> On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 19:21:25 +0100, Brian wrote:
> 
> > 
> > The tasksel maintainer has made it so.
> 
> Without asking to their user base nor a single survey to get some 
> feedback before a final move like this... nothing? :-?
> 
> > The Debian GNOME team (or one or two of them) may not be over the moon
> > but none of them maintain tasksel. Upstream doesn't count.
> 
> But one could expect the tasksel team asks about this change to the rest 
> of the involved teams (e.g., boot/cd and the others in charge of the DE 
> packages such as GNOME/KDE/XFCE/LXDE...), right? I don't mean to sound 
> rude but this seems to be a rather quick decision with little debate over 
> it.

You've already provided a major reference for the discussion which has
taken place on debian-devel. It included controversy (altering the
status quo always does) but it really does come down to size. The first
CD is not big enough to hold GNOME but I assume it will be on the first
DVD. So maybe the decision was quickly made but it didn't come from
nowhere. You may sympathise with this response:

   http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/08/msg00066.html

The way the artwork for Wheezy was chosen also had its critics. See the
June archive for debian-desktop. The work is done by people who step
forward and surveys are not necessarily going to make that happen.


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