On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 19:48:44 +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote:

> 08.07.2012 19:10, Camaleón:
> 
>> On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 18:51:59 +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote:

(...)

>>> For some definition of "purpose", maybe [1] Stating that 587/tcp was
>>> smtps is simply wrong, because it implies encryption on the network
>>> layer.
>> 
>> When you replace a standard with another it would be fair to say that
>> both share the same essence and they are aimed to solve the same
>> problem.
> 
> That doesn't change the fact that one is encrypted on the network layer
> while the other is not.

Which one, exactly?

> Especially - in contrast to what your statement implied - 587/tcp is not
> encrypted on the network layer.

Yes, it is. Or better put, it can be.

>>> Which makes "the new standard" something very different.
>> 
>> To my eyes, not that different in the end.
> 
> Yeah.
> Your statement that 587/tcp was smtps is simply wrong. I just corrected
> your wrong statement - nothing more. Why you feel the need to go to a
> great length to convince someone (whoever that might be) that your wrong
> statement was somehow right is completely beyond me.

If you are happy in thinking so I'm not going to try to change your mind. 
Sigh.

Greetings,

-- 
Camaleón


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