On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:17:52 +0000, Joe wrote: > On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón <noela...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> GNOME developers provide lots of information about GNOME3 and the new >> gnome-shell: >> >> https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell >> >> You can use that page as a start point to get a clue on why your VGA is >> not capable of running gnome-shell. > > I think, as usual with Linux graphics, that we are talking drivers here.
Of course. "ghome-shell" needs and VGA driver with 3D acceleration, so when it's not available it defaults to the fallback mode. > I don't really think this is fixable. The MB is two-three years old. So > not old enough to write off as useless, but not brand-new either. If it > was new, it would be understandable that the graphics drivers were not > ready yet. When the driver isn't there for something two to three years > old and as short-lived as a motherboard chipset, I can't see it ever > happening. We won't be able to tell you if it is fixable or not unless you tell us whats your VGA hardware and what driver are you using. >> If you are dissatisfied whith the current level of information, you can >> help to improve it. And if you experience any error when login to your >> session, you can review the current open bug reports gnome-shell >> package it has and yo will see that you're not alone. In the end, >> you're running testing/sid, right? >> >> > Indeed so, and not being a systems programmer, I do my best in helping > to spot bugs. Did you already open a bug for this issue? > I've run sid long enough to have weathered quite a few > storms, particularly with X and grub, but whenever there was a problem, > I could expect *enthusiastic* support. "Enthusiasm" has its limits, sir. We are plain users, not gnome-shell developers, so we can tell you where to start to look for to solve the problem but we cannot fix it :-) > There were FAQs for people with difficulties, and announcements at the > time of upgrade if there were any important changes to how a package > was configured or operated. A new system, whatever it is, is someone's > baby, and they are proud parents and want everyone to admire it. I have not seen any notice or warning for other major upgrades, like kernel versions (2.6.39 → 3.0). This has broken my wifi... such is life. As I'm running "testing" I should know it's a permament moving target, until it gets freezed so here (in testing) package updates are more than welcome. > I'm probably not being clear here, it isn't any lack of information that > I have a problem with, it is the level of helpfulness and willingness to > help someone with problems, and indeed the willingness to use the > existing facilities to warn of upgrade difficulties and suggest a > methodology to resolve them. The piece I quoted from the Gnome website > says to me very clearly that people with older hardware should expect > little or no help. Possibly the original message was written in > something other than English, and the translation left a bit to be > desired, but it came across to me as a touch arrogant, and as I said, > not the way I've come to expect Open Source people to sound. I think you are completely wrong here. People running old hardware (and I refer older than 5 years or so) is covered by the fallback mode which is another flavour you can use to run GNOME3. > Anyway, thank you for your patience but the deed is done, and I may look > at Gnome again when I have new hardware. Or I may have become hooked on > lightweight desktops, as so many people seem to be. When it comes down > to it, as you nearly said previously, it's only there to run > applications in a convenient way, it doesn't need to be a work of high > art or beauty in itself. You will be very welcome to GNOME when you find yourself prepared to make the jump. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.14.22.41...@gmail.com
