On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:17:10 -0500
Celejar <cele...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:20:33 -0600
> Paul Johnson <pauljoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> > Here's my angry rant:
> > 
> > I'm an old timer, can remember time when "startx" would just call a
> > window  manager and start a terminal, before Gnome, KDE, etc
> > existed.
> 
> I still do exactly this with XFCE (although I believe some other stuff
> is also started beside the WM).

That's what I use: XFCE to provide the environment and Enlightenment
over the top. If you want anything from Gnome or KDE, just install
them, rather than the whole cludge.
Regards,

Weaver.
-- 
"In a world without walls and fences, 
what need have we for Windows or Gates?"
-Anon.


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