On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Camaleón <noela...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:41:16 -0400, Burhan Hanoglu wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Camaleón <noela...@gmail.com> wrote: > > (...) > >>>> Debian is (at least) one of the best GNU/Linux distributions to use if >>>> you want to experience the excitement of discovering the real Linux >>>> /Unix stuff behind the GUI. Otherwise; Debian again is one of the best >>>> distros considering stability and freedom. >>> >>> I'm not sure that "stability" and "freedom" were inside the "novice" >>> part > >> I'm not sure what you mean here... > > Okay, I'll explain. > > I wanted to say that when you are a linux newbie (we all have been there) > your main concern is not focused in "freedom" or "stability" but > understanding how all that stuff works and how can do what you need with > the less problems, if possible. As times goes by, you start putting > attention in other things, like the package manager, upgrading procedures > and/or what the community of your chosen distribution provides :-) > Both freedom and stability are still good things to have while going thru the "newbie" stage. Ending up learning a "good" distro at the end of the stage mentioned is also an important thing.
> And to be sincere, having used openSUSE during 6 years (in both, servers > and desktop/workstation computers) I find openSUSE to be the perfect > distribution for linux beginners and newcomers. > OpenSuse can be as stable as well, but the main perfection with Suse is being able to get almost everything done in the GUI mainly using YAST, which is a good thing. However.... >>> but anyway, openSUSE is also stable (rock solid) and cares about your >>> freedom ;-) > >> I have no objection to any other distribution in this matter; that's why >> I said "...(at least) one of the best GNU/Linux distributions...". But >> don't forget that OpenSuse is a testing environment for SLES, same way >> Fedora is for RHEL. Well; this doesn't mean they are bad distros, but a >> fact is still a fact....:) > > And you are right: openSUSE is the base (testing "lab") for the paid SuSE > Linux flavours (SLED and SLES). And this (being the testing lab) has > "pros" and "cons": > > As "cons" I'd say that more than often decisions affecting the system are > taken based on the upstream needing (SLED and SLES). This happened with > ZENworks/libzipp, which had to be finally retired completely from the > openSUSE distribution (the community based distro) while is still being > used on the SLED/SLES side. It was a total disaster and we had to > supported for a long time :-/ > > As "pros" I'd say that openSUSE is an enterpise-grade focused > distribution, solid as a rock, very well polished in many aspects (and > not only visually but technically, their YaST tool is unique among its > species), and you have a set of tools that are not available for any > other distribution in the same convenient way it is there: you can manage > LDAP, Samba, iSCSI, AppArmor, Cyrus+Postfix combo, Bind9, almost all your > hardware, tweaking kernel parameters... and all that run from easy GUI > based wizards, with a pair of clicks, perfect for novices. > However; "perfection" for a novice is not just to find another OS or GNU/Linux distribution using which they can do everything on a stable GUI. What eventually is more important is the scene behind the GUI. I have to admit that GUI helps a novice get things configured and work rather quickly and easily, but by achieving the same result the hard way, which takes more time; a novice can end up with real-world experiments. This is when the "objective accomplished" when the matter is "learning Linux"; even for a regular user... Sincerely, Burhan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CABSER8W95_dtqdn0Hpf6Bqe3yXqG=_74ruu9xpx3qurp+q3...@mail.gmail.com
