On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:16:00 -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:34:48 -0400, Celejar wrote: >> >> > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:31:17 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: >> > >> > ... >> > >> >> >> Okay, I will have to ask... who has told you that? >> >> >> "wireless-tools" package is still available in Debian and he >> >> >> upstream project is just on the way to replace it but they are >> >> >> still needed in some cases. >> >> >> >> > If you ask anything about iwconfig on the wireless kernel mailing >> >> > list you will get told that iwconfig is deprecated, does not >> >> > provide all the function and at times give the wrong answers and >> >> > that iw should be used on all mac80211 based wireless drivers. >> >> > They wrote it, so they should know. >> >> >> >> Then why not ask them for a recommended replacement? If that's "iw" >> >> then ask for the documents on how to properly setup when using >> >> "ifup" method ;-) >> > >> > AFAIK, ifupdown is a Debian specific package - kernel devs are hardly >> > responsible for documenting it. >> >> Are you sure? :-) >> >> I'm only aware of two ways for setting up ethernet network interfaces >> (today) in Linux systems: one if using the old method (ifup/ifconfig) >> and other is using networkmanager. And both are not Debian-centric, >> I've also used them in openSUSE, for instance. > > I think you may be confusing 'ifconfig / iwconfig' and ifupdown. The > former are *nix standard tools; the latter is a Debian-specific package > that contains the utilities ifup / ifdown, which work with the file > /etc/network/interfaces to manipulate network interfaces. IIUC, this is > a higher level interface which calls ifconfig / iwconfig / > wpa_supplicant / dhclient and other lower level utilities to do the > actual work.
I have not mentioned "ifupdown" but "ifup" :-) And I've been calling "ifup" to the old method for setting up the networking interfaces that I have been using years ago. "Ifup" was the name I used in openSUSE for ifconfig tools (not just a binary file), so the naming confusion problem can come from here. >> Anyway, whatever method is proposed by iw devels should be docummented >> so users and distributions can adapt it to their needs, don't you >> think? > > iw is documented quite nicely: > > http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw Yes, I know... I mentioned that page in the very first of my posts to this thread ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]
