On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Scott Ferguson < prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Opening a vt will do nothing to "protect" any running x-apps. If > concerned about x-apps whilst doing an upgrade - logout of x and login > to a console then shutdown x. > I'm afraid users could be confused by this and other statements. There is a point to the original post which seems to be missed. Logging out of X can be done, but optional as long as you don't have important work to save within X applications. What is "login to a console" in your description? It is basically a VT or ssh in remotely. A VT is very valuable and we should avoid referencing it negatively so everyone understands regardless of their usual language. I don't think some people "get it" in terms of why I posted this. Please read and consider fully... Doing a dist-upgrade is a major upgrade. It is done not so often and done with the Debian upgrade guide nearby. It tells us very clearly to do dist-upgrade within a VT console or over ssh session, and not within X. End of debate on that. Doing safe-upgrade (I refer to aptitude command line args here) is done very often, and many people like myself have done it within a Desktop X terminal window, for many years, quickly and routinely. For 6.0.2, xserver is upgraded for the first time in a long time. If users are desktop users, and don't realize what has happened, the X restart could take them by surprise and they don't end up truly upgrading all packages. I can imagine this confusing some users. Personally, I don't want to close out all my Xsession windows each time I do aptitude safe-upgrade, and I will continue to run it within X, unless I see another case like 6.0.2 where part of X is getting updated. 6.0.2 safe-upgrade was atypical, and thus the purpose of the post.