on Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 02:42:37AM -0500, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 00:26, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > on Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:09:50PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 09:19:32AM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote: > [snip] > > If Swen is the shape of things to come, it's the end of dial-up POP3 > > mail accounts. > > What's going to happen (nay, *is* happening) is that ISPs are starting > to offer spam & virus filtering.
I've specifically requested this backed by threat of legal action for perpetrating, assisting, or aiding a DoS on my computer services. My ISP *does* offer spamfiltering. It's a fucking joke. Specifically, it's an industrywide joke. The system is largely ineffective, dosn't provide a viable means of assessing what was or wasn't filtered, to the best of my knowledge doesn't provide SMTP-time reject messages, and doesn't provide a viable means of training the systme with false positives or negatives. The system was revamped this past year. It is now based on a challenge-response system. This is as bad as the problem, particularly in light of spoofed senders (C-R is a DDoS attack technology). See: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Rants/challenge-response.html I've made a specific proposal that effective virus protection be offered. Partial exerpt: [Earthlink should offer viral mail filtering] a two-tiered basis: basic filtering (no executable content) with a concomittent risk of false positives, of all executable content, free of charge. Advanced filtering, using a specific virus filtering tool (or selection of tools), such as major proprietary offerings (Norton, RAV, McAfee, etc.) or free software tools such as clamav, as a premium, for-fee service. Implementation should follow these guidelines: - The service should be prominantly featured in Earthlink communications, including bulling notifications, website, and a possible special subscriber notification mailing. Press releases and news coverage of the service should also be encouraged. - The service should be discretionary. A subscriber should be able to elect to use, or not use, the service. - Though I generally don't recommend this for content-blocking features: the basic service should be enabled by default on new accounts. It should *not* be retroactively applied to existing accounts. - The service should be active at SMTP connect time, and should return a permanent nondelivery error to the remote SMTP server. The remote server is responsible for any notification to the originating sender. The service should *not* generate its own bounce or nondelivery mail based on headers or envelope sender, any or all of which may be forged, presenting a Joe-job DDoS risk. - The service should provide a regular (weekly or monthly) summary to the user of blocked mail. For the basic service, this might be restricted to a count of accepted and rejected mails. For the premium service (as a revenue generating incentive), abstract or detail in the form of connecting remote hosts, and possibly subject line or description of blocked content by type or risk (e.g.: the [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus) could be included. There's room for a premium service. There is a _requirement_, however, for a reasonably effective minimum service. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Ford had another Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster, the drink which has been described as the alcoholic equivalent of a mugging - expensive and bad for the head. -- HHGTG
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