Hello, On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 06:58:56, shawn wilson wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Geronimo <[email protected]> wrote: > first, some side comments that aren't going to answer your questions: > why not use a vm?
I already use virtualbox for testing. Few days after squeeze freeze I had a crash of my system disk and so I decided to start with squeeze. The point is - I was a very emotional fan of kde in days before kde 4 - but now I hate kde. But - as I use applications and not the desktop, I'm used to both gnome and kde apps. So I need to find out, which mixture is best for me. gnome is not ready yet to suit my needs, so I have to decide between change my way of working or use a desktop, which i hate and wich will waste lot of my time. > > 1. On both installtions it is impossible to boot the other squeeze > > installation. First I have to enter BIOS and reorder the boot sequence of > > the harddisks to enable the start of the other grub - so each grub can > > boot systems on the same harddisk only! > > I'm sure, that was not the case with grub1 and hints on how to get a > > system from a different harddrive booted are very appreciated! > > pick a grub install - doesn't matter which, just pick one. add the > second hdd to the config so that it shows up on the menu. I tried grup-update on both systems and the menue-entries are already there. But selecting a menue-entry from another harddisk result in a boot failure: "you need to start kernel first" or similar. Doesn't update-grub perform all neccessary steps to enable the boot of found systems (from os-prober)? > > 2. One squeeze installation is a gnome system (with some kde apps added) > > and the other system is a kde (with some gnome apps added). As > > mentioned, time is UTC based on both installations. > > When I reboot the gnome system and change BIOS to use kde system the > > initial filesystem check claims, that the last mount time from > > superblock is in future. When the kde is up and running - its time is > > wrong by one hour - and I could not achieve to set the time, that it is > > right after next reboot. So I had to install ntp to get right times on > > kde > > no idea. i know this happens to my VMs when i put them to sleep and > such, but i don't really care since they are for testing and i would > never run time sensitive apps on a vm (time skew in vm is a known > issue). Well, both systems run the same kernel and the same file system. I don't know, whether gnome or kde are involved yet at that early boot stage. I never have a time skew when I do a "reboot" and I never have the time skew when I boot from the kde-system to the gnome-system. This happens only when I change from the gnome-system to the kde-system. Additionally: I need some time to enter BIOS and reorder boot sequence of harddrives - so I suspect, that it's not a question of time skew but may be wrong handling of hwclock - as the kde-system comes up with a wrong time (wrong by one hour - not a few seconds). Is it possible, that kde-system use the windows style of hwclock interpretation? - I know this "wrong time by one hour" by having windows and linux on the same machine and the clock runs at UTC. kind regards Gero -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]

