On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Camaleón <noela...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 13:08:05 +0100, Klistvud wrote: >> >> As you probably know, Ubuntu is planning to replace X11 with the Wayland >> Display Management System, and replace Gnome with Unity. X11 and Gnome >> will still be in the Ubuntu repos, at least initially, but they won't be >> the Ubuntu default anymore. >> >> What are your opinions on the matter, will this have repercussions for >> Debian? *Should* it? > > I hope it's just an Ubuntu trend and not affecting/spreading to other > distros >:-)
Re Unity: Debian hasn't adopted upstart so why should it adopt unity? I'm sure that it'll end up in the Debian repos for those of us who want to try/use it. It would be fun (perverse, sadistic fun though!) to follow any debian-devel thread started by someone proposing to make unity the Debian default. :) Re Wayland: >From a Wayland FAQ: <start> Why fork the X server? It's not an X server and not a fork. It's a minimal server that lets clients communicate GEM buffers and information about updates to those buffers to a compositor. ... Is wayland replacing the X server? It could replace X as the native Linux graphics server, but I'm sure X will always be there on the side. I imagine that Wayland and X will coexist in two ways on a Linux desktop: 1. Wayland is a graphics multiplexer for a number of X servers. Linux today typically only uses one X server for GDM and the user session, but we'll probably see that move to a dedicated GDM X server, an X server for user sessions (spawning more on the fly as more users log in) and maybe a dedicated screensaver/unlock X server. Right now we rely on VT switching to move between X servers, and it's horrible. We have no control over what the transitions look like and the VT ioctls are pretty bad. Wayland provides a solution here, in that it can host several X servers as they push their root window to Wayland as surfaces. The compositor in this case will be a dedicated session switcher that will cross-fade between X servers or spin them on a cube. 2. Further down the road we run a user session natively under Wayland with clients written for Wayland. There will still (always) be X applications to run, but we now run these under a root-less X server that is itself a client of the Wayland server. This will inject the X windows into the Wayland session as native looking clients. The session Wayland server can run as a nested Wayland server under the system Wayland server described above, maybe even side by side with X sessions. There's a number of intermediate steps, such as running the GNOME screen saver as a native wayland client, for example, or running a composited X desktop, where the compositor is a Wayland client, pushing the composited desktop to Wayland. </end> So the stories about X being ripped out and replaced in Ubuntu 11.10/12.04/... might not be entirely accurate. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinzdza5=8l3u41q-5kqe4ujyqt31womkgrfv...@mail.gmail.com
