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Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2003 : Issue 2597 > >Today's Topics: > Re: (library qt-mt) not found [ Thomas Krennwallner < [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: Hot-plugging USB storage devices [ Iain Georgeson < [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: Quoting [ Christian Schoeller < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: Power off [ Micha Feigin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: Quoting [ Travis Crump < [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: modutils and module-init-tools d [ =?iso-8859-1?q?Roberto= 20Sanchez?= ] > Re: Spamassassin + exim [ Paul Johnson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: Alsa and Linux kernel 2.6.0-test [ =?iso-8859-1?q?Roberto= 20Sanchez?= ] > Re: Spamassassin + exim [ Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: Spamassassin + exim [ Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: Packages: required vs recommende [ Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: Spamassassin + exim [ kenneth dombrowski < [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Re: Spamassassin + exim [ Paul Johnson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Re: OT: Debian Mailinglist server sl [ Bijan Soleymani < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > >Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:26:02 +0200 >From: Thomas Krennwallner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: debian-us <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: (library qt-mt) not found >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; > protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1hKfHPzOXWu1rh0v" >Content-Disposition: inline > >--1hKfHPzOXWu1rh0v >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Disposition: inline >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Hi! > >On Sun Aug 31, 2003 at 07:13:07PM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote: >> On Sunday 31 August 2003 19:03, ZekeVarg wrote: >> > I'm trying to compile a program but #./configure ends with this >> > error: >>=20 >> Don't build stuff as root (I suppose you did that because of the # >> prompt...). It's not only bad style, it's also a security risk. >> Compile the stuff as user and only install it as root. > >I go even farther and don't install as root. Put yourself into the staff >group and install into /usr/local or better use a package manager like >stow and install into /usr/local/stow/foo-x.y > >So long >Thomas > >--=20 > .''`. Obviously we do not want to leave zombies around. - W. R. Stevens >: :' : Thomas Krennwallner <djmaecki at ull dot at> >`. `'` 1024D/67A1DA7B 9484 D99D 2E1E 4E02 5446 DAD9 FF58 4E59 67A1 DA7B > `- http://bigfish.ull.at/~djmaecki/ > >--1hKfHPzOXWu1rh0v >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature >Content-Disposition: inline > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQE/Ui+p/1hOWWeh2nsRAvrQAJ4/v//gk/PHznPZWdvbSq0JsfeIrACaApDb >WIgOu/hIR9uQTSm+n8KyJt8>=Vb2M >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >--1hKfHPzOXWu1rh0v-- > >Date: 31 Aug 2003 18:18:57 +0100 >From: Iain Georgeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Hot-plugging USB storage devices. >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Russell Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> scsitools solves the ordering problem by giving scsi devices a >> unique name based on its hardware. > >That appears to be exactly what I'm looking for. Mucho thanks. (I'm >still fighting rescan-scsi-bus.sh ATM, but I'm sure it'll capitulate >in time). > >> dpkg -p > >I didn't know about that one. ;) > >> apt-get install -t testing scsitools > >Stable, in this case. > > Iain. > >-- >Iain Georgeson | Keirsey: INTJ | Belbin: Plant | Debian Woody >People who love sausages, respect the law, and work with IT standards >shouldn't watch any of them being made. > -- Peter Gutmann > >Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:33:36 +0200 >From: Christian Schoeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: debuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Quoting >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] CPS.local.> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; > protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF" >Content-Disposition: inline > >--3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Disposition: inline >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 12:19:08PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: >> Well, I have been attending a university for 5 years now, and in all >> that time I've met one student who regularly uses Linux and one >> professor who has used Linux before. It's a relatively small school >> though. About 5000 students I think. > >Oh, very nice. Up to this moment I was looking forward to my time at >the University of Vienna, but now... No, seriously: you somehow can't >compare it, but on my school (900 pupils) there is nobody who actually >uses Linux, so I used to think that this fact would change at >university. > >Obviously this isn't the turth... > >C. > >--=20 >Christian Schoeller {Schueler} | "Eine weltweite Geschenkverteilung >MAIL {mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | wuerde jede Zivilisation unmoeglich >HTTP {http://www.yaup.at.tt} | machen." --aus: "Kapitalismus und >EBAY {c_p_s!} | Freiheit" von Milton Friedman=20 >--3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature >Content-Disposition: inline > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Darwin) > >iD8DBQE/UjFwio+STzllbN8RAqNBAKC2K43/AY+rYeN0fvjRL5R52cdafACdEPnz >utiNPJvawU42K6N88vxSdVg>=aDBP >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >--3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF-- > >Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:36:44 +0300 >From: Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Debian User List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Power off >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 10:31, Frank Hrebabetzky wrote: >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Z F wrote: >> >> All I want from power management is switching off at the end, but I don't >> know if APM or ACPI is preferable for that. My experience so far shows: >> 1. ACPI compiled into kernel: no power off >> 2. APM compiled into kernel: system hangs at boot > >Forgive me if I am repeating here, since I didn't follow the start of >the thread, but what kernel version and what acpi version (patch or >builtin?), >since acpi version in 2.4.21 is old, you need either the patch from >acpi.sourceforge.org or kernel 2.4.22. >Also with the acpi patch on 2.4.21 there was a problem with my laptop >that it didn't power down properly and I needed to change the sleep >level from S5 to S4 in acpi_power_off function. This was solved in the >acpi version thats in 2.4.22 > >> >> Please see my next posting about that. >> >> > do you know if you have APM or ACPI ? >> > >> > Maybe you are compiling a wrong power manager into the kernel. Whether >> > you have APM or ACPI depends on you BIOS. If you do not have ACPI >> > option when you run make menuconfig see if you enabled >> > >> > "Prompt for development/incomplete drivers" in code maturity >> > level option. >> > >> > Try enabling ACPI if you have not done so. >> >> ------------------------------------------------- >> Frank Hrebabetzky Tel.: +55 / 48 / 235 1106 >> Florianopolis +55 / 48 / 9998 7686 >> Brazil email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >-- >Micha Feigin >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:51:56 -0400 >From: Travis Crump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: debuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Quoting >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] CPS.local.> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] CPS.local.> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; > protocol="application/pgp-signature"; > boundary="------------enig210D073FFEF3F988AA1EAD27" > >This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) >--------------enig210D073FFEF3F988AA1EAD27 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Christian Schoeller wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 12:19:08PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: >> >>>Well, I have been attending a university for 5 years now, and in all >>>that time I've met one student who regularly uses Linux and one >>>professor who has used Linux before. It's a relatively small school >>>though. About 5000 students I think. >> >> >> Oh, very nice. Up to this moment I was looking forward to my time at >> the University of Vienna, but now... No, seriously: you somehow can't >> compare it, but on my school (900 pupils) there is nobody who actually >> uses Linux, so I used to think that this fact would change at >> university. >> >> Obviously this isn't the turth... >> >> C. >> > >When I went to university, my dorm had its own linux server with vt's >positioned throughout the dorm which pretty much everyone used. If that >makes you feel better... :) > >--------------enig210D073FFEF3F988AA1EAD27 >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > >iD8DBQE/UjXDlxHEcbyY0skRAq7gAJ0YynzUMDrdpfx2+u1m+YC75g0tDwCgunry >HpcCJf6NLvTardNfNyR2QUs>=mIxq >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >--------------enig210D073FFEF3F988AA1EAD27-- > >Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:59:43 +0200 (CEST) >From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Roberto=20Sanchez?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: debian-user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: modutils and module-init-tools duplicating work >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > --- Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: >> > modultils -- kernel < 2.5.48 >> > module-init-tools -- kernel >= 2.5.48 >> > >> > Of course, module if module-init-tools finds an earlier kernel, it passes >> the >> > work on to the old version. >> > >> >> They are still almost the same, except for the check whether to run >> depmod in module-init-tools. Why do we need two of them? >> > >Because, as of kernel 2.5.48 the kernel modules now end in .ko and have a >completely different internal structure. The new module-init-tools does not >handle old style modules, but recognizes and passes them on to modutils. >The old modutils knows nothing of the new formats and will barf all over itself >if you attempt to build, load, remove, or otherwise operate on a module with >it. > >The short answer is: because they are not cross compatible. > >-Roberto > >___________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Messenger - Nueva versión GRATIS >Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y más... >http://messenger.yahoo.es > >Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:06:16 -0700 >From: Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Spamassassin + exim >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed >Content-Disposition: inline > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 08:56:43AM -0400, Jeff McAdams wrote: >> Of course, multipart MIME is strictly the same thing as an attachment. >> Specifically, the various parts of multipart/signed messages are shown >> as inline rather than attached. The distinction is minor, but a fair >> number of MUA's honor that distinction, so PGP signatures like yours, >> mine and others won't show up as an attachment. Of course, a fair >> number of MUA's are hideously broken in their handling, so even >> text/plain sometimes shows up as an attachment. *sigh* > >Yes, whereas mutt really does the job right. It's a bummer nobody's >made a KDE shell for mutt to bring the joy of mutt to the Windows >convert newbies. It would totally blow their minds. > >- -- > .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >: :' : >`. `'` proud Debian admin and user > `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQE/UjkYUzgNqloQMwcRArobAJ9PegPaF5kLCbotgujEyaXdBDFlbACgh74u >DCPVBDV3lWnbllSrjR3yOaw>=G/4p >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:06:16 +0200 (CEST) >From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Roberto=20Sanchez?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Debian Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Alsa and Linux kernel 2.6.0-test4 >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > --- Kevin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: >> Hi- >> >> I just decided to switch from RedHat to Debian and so far am very >> impressed. I purchased a Dell Dimension 4600 and installed Woody. I >> then switched to unstable. I found Crafterm's site that had the .deb >> files for the kernel 2.4.21 and installed them so that my network card >> would work. On that site he has a file that talks about the audio card >> and the problems with the SB Live that Dell ships. So I removed that >> card and enabled the onboard sound. He then talks about installing >> 2.4.22 of the kernel. I looked and could not find any packages to do >> this, so I thought if I have to compile a kernel I might as well try out >> 2.6.0-test4. The comile seemed to go fine but when I boot into this new >> kernel I get the following message: >> >> Starting ALSA (unknown version): failed - ALSA modules not installed >> > >Do you actually have ALSA support enabled, or are you using the (deprecated) >OSS drivers? If you have ALSA enabled, do you have it selected as modules >or compiled in to the kernel? I have found that compiling in ALSA support >does not work very well yet. I think that this because ALSA has only recently >been integrated in the kernel and every app/util (including alsa-base and >alsa-utils) that deals with ALSA _assumes_ that it is working with modules. >Once I went back and recompiled the kernel with modular ALSA support instead, >everything worked great. > >> Everything else seems to work, my NIC and video and the machine actually >> seems faster. But I need sound. Ok I don't need it but I sure would >> like it<grin> >> > >I can agree that sound is a necessity nowadays. > >> I have searched Google and groups and can't find this message in anyway >> that appears to fit my error. Does anyone have any ideas or pointers to >> places where I can get a fix. I would even go back to a previous kernel >> if need be. >> > >2.6.0 is still really new, so help is sketchy. You may want to try LKML, but >they are all pretty busy, so you may not get the help you need there. Colin >might be able to shed some more light on that, as I think he lurks on LKML. > >> Thanks for the help. >> Kevin >> > >-Roberto > >___________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Messenger - Nueva versión GRATIS >Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y más... >http://messenger.yahoo.es > >Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:16:42 -0700 >From: Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Spamassassin + exim >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; > protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb" >Content-Disposition: inline > >--VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Disposition: inline >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 11:06:16AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Yes, whereas mutt really does the job right. It's a bummer nobody's >> made a KDE shell for mutt to bring the joy of mutt to the Windows >> convert newbies. It would totally blow their minds. > >KDE shell for mutt? What's konsole, then? > >And no, they'd not even care. It's KDE, remember? Whether it gets the job >done is entirely secondary to how it looks, and mutt in a konsole doesn't >have any eye candy. > >--=20 > Marc Wilson | (Presuming for the sake of argument that it's even > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | *possible* to design better code in Perl than in C. > | :-) -- Larry Wall on core code vs. module code design > >--VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature >Content-Disposition: inline > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQE/UjuKTDNDGg1Nl+sRAr/4AJ9p+Ex8/y9VxiVHBFqww0iVgYYQYQCfVy1B >Sc+rouLib1oHMJlhdVsaw6o>=ni7r >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >--VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb-- > >Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:18:11 -0700 >From: Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Spamassassin + exim >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; > protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LyciRD1jyfeSSjG0" >Content-Disposition: inline > >--LyciRD1jyfeSSjG0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Disposition: inline >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 05:45:10AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >> exim doesn't do filtering, but procmail does. You may find procmail >> better suited to your needs, but a good part of the decision is >> personal choice. > >Er, exim most certainly does do filtering. There's a lot to be said for >rejecting the mail during the SMTP transaction. > >--=20 > Marc Wilson | Smartness runs in my family. When I went to school > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I was so smart my teacher was in my class for > | five years. -- George Burns > >--LyciRD1jyfeSSjG0 >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature >Content-Disposition: inline > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQE/UjvjTDNDGg1Nl+sRAlFHAKC75CXcgd7yjGqIY48oMhtYEhFBTgCfWfs3 >yXXJ4zHpDU72s5yUi2ErxvU>=moso >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >--LyciRD1jyfeSSjG0-- > >Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:26:35 -0700 >From: Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Debian-User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Packages: required vs recommended vs suggested >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Disposition: inline > >On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 01:11:24PM -0400, Neal Lippman wrote: >> I was wondering if someone could clarify how apt-get handles the various >> categories of related packages. > >It doesn't. The only thing apt-get cares about is dependencies. > >> I did in install last pm of a package which "recommends" other packages, >> which it turned out I needed in order to make things work. > >Then perhaps they're actually dependencies? Did you file a bug? > >> However, apt-get install <package> did not automagically install the >> recommended packages (it did get required dependencies) and I spent quite >> a while before I figured that out. > >Yes, as documented, apt-get doesn't care about Recommends or Suggests. >IMHO, a tool that didn't give you the option of whether to install them, >but automatically went and did it, kind of makes moot the idea of a package >being anything other than a dep. > >> How do you cause apt-get to at least ask you about installing >> recommended, or suggested, package dependencies? > >You don't. You use a real package management tool rather than something >that was originally coded as a demonstration of libapt and dependency >resolution. > >Personally, I have no problem with dselect, but most other people will >probably point you to aptitude. > >-- > Marc Wilson | I am covered with pure vegetable oil and I am writing > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | a best seller! > >Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:15:09 -0400 >From: kenneth dombrowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Spamassassin + exim >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Disposition: inline > >what a timely thread! > >excuse me for interrupting, > >On 03-08-30 20:48 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: >> You can tell by looking at the headers and seeing if BAYES_xx shows up. >> The xx is the approx. range that the Bayesian filter places the particular >> piece of mail. For example here's the score from the message of yours I am >> responding to: >> >> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.6 required=5.0 >> tests=BAYES_10,NO_REAL_NAME >> version=2.55 >> > >well, there's definitely something wrong with my setup since upgrading >from 2.43 -> 2.55 this past week, I've fed sa-learn almost 2k --spam >and >4k --ham messages, and I'm yet to see a single BAYES_* test in the >headers > >I've been looking at this all morning, & am totally at a loss. >I'm running unofficial backports of SA 2.55 found on apt-get.org: > >ENKIDU:/var/log# dpkg -l spamassassin spamc perl >||/ Name Version Description >+++-==============-==============-==================================== =======>ii spamassassin 2.55-2.nobse.1 Perl-based spam filter using text >analysis >ii spamc 2.55-2.nobse.1 Client for perl-based spam filtering >daemon >ii perl 5.6.1-8.3 Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and >Report > >Anyway, I know when I had to have my unstable machine fill in for my >mail server for a day this past June, 2.54 in sid worked right off, but >with Perl 5.8. > >I'm not sure I'm willing to de-stabalize my Woody box to the point of >upgrading Perl. > >Can anyone confirm that SA 2.55 and Perl 5.6.1 will or will not >cooperate? > >Has anyone else had problems getting this particular backport to begin >to run the BAYES_ tests? > >Thanks in advance, >Kenneth > >Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:37:29 -0700 >From: Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Spamassassin + exim >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed >Content-Disposition: inline > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 11:16:42AM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: >> KDE shell for mutt? What's konsole, then? > >No, I meant like a GUI frontend. > >- -- > .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >: :' : >`. `'` proud Debian admin and user > `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQE/UkBpUzgNqloQMwcRAvdiAKDjVS+7NSlAnj1fG8tD/q4MjixpKQCgjV/+ >rMNWp4BuyQlgP7tLFiycNSw>=dKmS >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:32:26 -0400 >From: Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: OT: Debian Mailinglist server slow? >Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx; > protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 >Content-disposition: inline > >--dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Disposition: inline >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 03:30:14PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:58:52 +1200,=20 >> cr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message=20 >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>=20 >> > On Sunday 31 August 2003 14:04, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> >=20 >> > > > The London Underground was originally designed to allow through >> > > > running from the mainline railways to stations more convenient for >> > > > central London than the mainline termini, which were very much on >> > > > the outskirts of the London of the time. There are several >> > > > connections between the two systems, and the "suburbs" end of >> > > > several Underground routes is reached over main line track, so >> > > > Underground drivers on such routes have to know two sets of >> > > > operating rules, Underground rules and national rules. >> > > >> > > ..this sounds like a _very_ good time to pour a shipload of concrete >> > > onto those wintendo-style dual rule tracks, to replace the nice hard >> > > rock that _should_ have separated those two track systems. >> >=20 >> > Now that's nonsense. The operating rules are basically the same for >> > both systems, there's no major difference. And the trains are no >> > more different than, say, an express passenger and a slow goods, which >> > have always shared the tracks with a good degree of safety for 175 >> > years. =20 >> >=20 >> > It also makes all sorts of sense to extend Underground services on to>=20 >> > less-busy mainline branches where the traffic patterns justify it. >>=20 >> On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:35:55 -0700,=20 >> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message=20 >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>=20 >> > Why? Passenger and freight peacefully coexist on tracks worldwide. >>=20 >> ...as does airliners and high rises. You both ignore how=20 >> war criminals and terrorists work; they _break_ the rules. =20 > >What you say seems to imply that the solution to that problem is to >either get planes to fly on the ground or to get rid of high rises :) > >Bijan >--=20 >Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >http://www.crasseux.com > >--dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature >Content-Disposition: inline > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQE/Uj86Uof+95vTyAwRAhhoAJ9RxKSB3PI1wfzymLwG5IlIWaDJBwCghgwx >tlkVhoVofKex/JEBpGIwm/I>=xF6H >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >--dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx-- >
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