> I'm not sure the GNU project produces the majority of Debian, by > any metric.
I'm pretty sure it doesn't, because by and large "the GNU project" doesn't produce any software. It provides technical, philosophical, ethical, and political support to help and encourage the development and use of Free Software. Part of that is to provide hosting services for some projects (on savannah.gnu.org), but that usually doesn't count as "producing". A GNU software package basically is a software whose author(s) have decided they'd like to see their name associated with the "GNU", either because they want to show their support for the GNU movement, or because they want their software to benefit from the GNU "brand" and get some publicity from it, or because they wanted to use the savannah.gnu.org hosting service, or somesuch. Of course, some software authors might be considered as "GNU coder" either because they have gotten some money from the FSF at some point, or because they've spent enormous amounts of efforts writing code almost exclusively for GNU software. What the GNU project has done is give a name and a visibility, defined a set of guidelines (and licenses) and created the expectations that define both the Open Source and the Free Software movement. It's thanks to the GNU project that we don't have to suffer nearly as much from "somewhat Free" licenses (like the idiotic freeware, which still plagues the Windows world) because people find them nowadays completely unacceptable. So the GNU project has shaped the world which made Debian possible, and in this sense can be credited just as much for GNU packages as for those packages which do not put "GNU" next to their name (and even for those who refuse the GPL and/or consider the FSF as dangerous lunatics). Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org