On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Michael Ekstrand<mich...@elehack.net> wrote: > 明覺 <shi.min...@gmail.com> writes: >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Tzafrir Cohen<tzaf...@cohens.org.il> wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:40:20PM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >>> >>>> So does it mean debian determines the use of python and perl? >>> >>> Python? Python is not a dependency. perl-base is. perl is, to a lesser >>> extent. >> gnome depends on python, if other desktop manager doesn't depend on >> it, I will switch to that one. >>> >>>> could you help recommend some distributions that do not need perl or >>>> python? thanks >>> >>> What's your problem with using perl? This is not a rethorical question. >>> Do you have an issue of performance? Disk space? Memory usage? Can you >>> provide some more details about your application? >> no problem with perl, I just want to keep my system simple so that I >> will be able to modify them someday in the future, without learning >> any other programming languages. >> thanks > > I like the mindset of wanting to be able to modify the programs on your > computer. Truly, this is the heart of running a Free Software operating > system. It is excellent to see a user elevating that desire so high. > > Unfortunately for your other constraints, you will be unable to achieve > the goal of a Perl-free system with most distributions. Many software > developers work in Perl or Python so that they can produce good software > much more quickly than writing everything by hand in C; I choose OCaml > myself for this very reason. Perl is used for some of the base glue > that holds Debian together. Even Gentoo, one of the most customizable > distributions around short of LFS, used Python for its package manager > last I knew. And even in LFS land, you will definitely have shell > scripts, and if you go far enough with it will need Perl and perhaps M4 > programs to get things working (IIRC some of the Autotools suite > requires Perl). thanks, but before I got the benifit of so many languages, I have been tired of learning them, maybe it cannot be called "learning", it's just some parallel memory, for none of them bring new concepts to C/C++. thanks > > So while the goal of being able to modify anything is good, I do not > think it is achievable with the constraint of only C or C++ with > presently-available Linux distributions. > > You might try FreeBSD. Perl and Python are not installed in the base > system; everything in its base system is C, C++, shell/sed/awk, or Make. > Perl and Python will only be installed when you start installing > additional software from its Ports collection that require them. > > - Michael > > -- > mouse, n: A device for pointing at the xterm in which you want to type. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > >
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