On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 02:40:45PM -0500, Napoleon wrote: > lee wrote: >> It's likely that voltage and water pressure exist even when you don't >> measure them, but without measuring them (or otherwise observing their >> effects), you don't know that they do. Not oberserving something >> doesn't mean that it still exists. >> > > It also does not mean it does not exist.
Indeed --- it only means that you don't know weather it still exists or not. >>> The question is immaterial. Whether you know or not is not related >>> to the presence (or absence) of voltage. >> >> But measuring/observing is? >> >> > > Measuring/observing has nothing to do as to whether something exists in > the macro world - only in quantum physics (which we are not discussing > here). > > Right now I don't have a thermometer, so I can't measure the outside > temperature. However, I am confident it exists! Well, I was just outside, and there was a temperature. That doesn't mean that it's still there, but I can see the thermometer from here :) -- "Don't let them, daddy. Don't let the stars run down." http://adin.dyndns.org/adin/TheLastQ.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
