On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:28:23 +0100 NN_il_Confusionario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I usually have no need for switching between X and console. Infact I > have usually no need to run X at all, since svgalib/framebuffer > programs are faster than their X counterparts. Well, I never figured out what the framebuffer is for. If I want a GUI, I use X, if I want a console, I use a console --- or an X terminal. > But there is no > console analogue for dememo, and there is the need to occasionally > show someone the pratical proof of the basic web principle "If you > cannot see it with lynx, then it is not worth seeing". That's not true --- and lynx is very awkward to use. And what if you want to see the pictures? I eventually read forums, and people post pictures I want to see. And browsing a forum with lynx? Bleh ... But I'll have to see if I can go away from mozilla (which is currently called iceape). I don't need its mail client anymore --- I tried claws and I like it much better --- and mozilla is a memory eater. Another thing is how you can see something, like the difference between seeing a few characters or the whole thing. Try to use mutt on a console: the display is too small. If you want to use it for IMAP, it becomes so awkward that it is unusable. > Moreover I find the keyboard-based switching of workspalces in evilwm > and in gnu screen easier and better than a mouse based switching. I'm using a trackball --- mice drive me crazy because you have to constantly pick them up and put them back to keep the pointer on the screen. To switch, I just move the mouse pointer over the edge. If I want to, I can use the keyboard to switch. Alt-space opens a terminal, Alt-ESC and Ctrl-ESC resize windows to full screen/full length. Icons or buttons to click on are pretty useless --- if they are on the desktop, there will be a window over them, and even if they are not covered, I have opened a terminal and entered the command I want before I could find the icon or button to click on. But consoles, there are only 6. Desktops, there are 16 --- or as much as I want. > Finally, when I run X then I *must* switch to console (where i can > start X programs if needed: env DISPLAY=:1 XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority > xpdf) since, as we are discussing, no satisfactory > font/terminal/whatever exist for my eyes. Yeah, that is really a problem. Things could be a lot easier if you could use a terminal. > And in any case I never found a user interfce intrinsecally more > anti-intuitive and broken (for the way my brain works) than the GUI > concept. It has its advantages. There are some things that a GUI makes easier to do, and there are many things that are easier to do from a terminal/console. I need both. > well, Linux is not OpenBSD which is limited to 80x25 and 80x50 > consoles. Try vga=ask and see how many possibilities Linux has for > text consoles. That's what I tried. I couldn't find any mode that would have been better than the default 80x25. > Then, after Linux has booted, > there is fbset svgatextmode and so on. Like I said, I never used the frambuffer stuff. I don't know why I would. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
