John Hasler wrote:
Mark Allums wries:
In the US, a 56k dialup running at 53k (max allowed by law, and rarely
achieved in practice) gives you just about the necessary bandwidth for
voice over IP, *and nothing else*.
That's 56k downbound.  Upbound is 33k max.
Been upgraded to 44k.  dialup still sucks though.


Not a voice-over-IP expert, and yes, I *have* heard of Nyquist.
Good.  Now read Shannon.  The number of bits per second you can push
through a channel depends on the bandwidth _and_ the signal to noise
ratio.
Read him.  I am being specific about the approximate reproduction of a 
"waveform" from digital samples here, not about maximum channel 
capacity.  Two samples per "wave" ensures that all the frequencies are 
there, but three bits makes a more "accurate" reproduction.  At the 
highest frequencies, the human ear probably can't tell the difference, 
which is why the sample rate of a standard CD is "only" 48kHz.  (44.1 
after mastering)
What modulation does Skype use?  Some type of delta modulation would be
my guess for dialup, but I have no real idea.
None.  Skype surely uses some sort of compression, but the modem handles
the physical layer using complex multitone modulation schemes.

Again, I am being specific about the encoding of the voice signal into bits, not the type of signal modulation done on the physical channel. Which is a type of angle modulation, specifically a phase encoding whereby each transition encodes three bits.
Delta modulation is good for a DAC with a small sample size.  Remember 
those DOS games where they managed to reproduce a digitized sound out of 
the PC "beep" speaker?  That was a one-bit DAC, and they used delta 
modulation to make it work.

My problem is, I think, that I don't use the standard terminology very well.

Mark Allums



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