On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 03:11:38PM -0700, ghe wrote: > I have a hard time believing, though, that there wouldn't have been a > lot of very loud wailing if it's not possible for us old server admins > to set things up the way I want to...
No warranties, but: * you can try a system where udev is NOT even installed (almost all my systems, and all systems which I have personally installed, are of this kind. The few remaining ones are covered by the next point). This requires a self-complied kernel without initrd, or a debian stock kernel where the initrd is build by yaird. Note that at this time yaird from sid works also on etch (fetch the package, dpkg --force-depends -i, then manually adjust in /var/lib/dpkg/status the Depends: line for yaird; it will work also with etch libc6) * you can try a system where udev is installed but does NOT start neither from the initrd or at boot (use rcconf, or edit symlinks in rc.d directories or the file /etc/rc.conf fir file-rc is installed, or whatever). Almost the same as above. * you can try a system where udev is installed and starts at boot (but NOT from the initrd), but in udev.conf a directory different from /dev/ is specified. See /usr/share/doc/udev/ search for something like "disabling udev". The difference with the previous points is that udev still loads modules. In my opinion, udev is pretty useless on a machine where hardware does not change and manual loading from /etc/modules in the order you want permits avoiding tampering with udev rules. No warranties (even if I am VERY happy with the udev - free machines). -- Chi usa software non libero avvelena anche te. Digli di smettere. Informatica=arsenico: minime dosi in rari casi patologici, altrimenti letale. Informatica=bomba: intelligente solo per gli stupidi che ci credono. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]