Hi Damon,

before all, thanks for your complete answer.

I replaced a "failed disk", so now I have a "predictive failure".

I understood, "googled" about "punctured strip" and found another cases of
this problem. So I will replace the drive again and see the result of, if
occur again I will reconstruct my array (raid 6).

I will try it and back with the solution (or another questions =( )..

Thanks again!!

Lucas.

2008/7/28 Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 09:41 -0300, Lucas Mocellin wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm having some troubles with the DP SmartArray 6400 controller.
> >
> > Before I had a failed drive, so I repalced this drive, and now I'm
> > getting this error:
> >
> > sp02:~# hpacucli
> > => ctrl slot=4 pd all show
> >
> > Smart Array 6400 in Slot 4
> >
> >    array A
> >
> >       physicaldrive 2:0   (port 2:id 0 , Parallel SCSI, 72.8 GB, OK)
> >       physicaldrive 2:1   (port 2:id 1 , Parallel SCSI, 72.8 GB, OK)
> >       physicaldrive 2:2   (port 2:id 2 , Parallel SCSI, 146.8 GB, OK)
> >       physicaldrive 2:3   (port 2:id 3 , Parallel SCSI, 146.8 GB, OK)
> >       physicaldrive 2:4   (port 2:id 4 , Parallel SCSI, 146.8 GB,
> > Predictive Failure)
> >       physicaldrive 2:5   (port 2:id 5 , Parallel SCSI, 146.8 GB, OK)
> >
> > A "Predictive Failure", but I don't know what is this.
> >
> > I searched at google but without answers..
> >
> > Can somebody help me?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Lucas.
>
> Lucas,
>
> I am CCing you also as this could be very bad for you.
>
> I worked on Dell hardware, but I can tell you what a predictive failure
> is.  It is one of two things:
>
> 1.  The smart hardware on the HD is reporting that the drive failure is
> eminent.  It may last for hours or months, but it is in a state that
> says it is about to fail.
>
> 2.  I don't remember what the chipset is for Dell raid controllers is,
> but I bet it is the same mfg as HP.  Sometimes when the meta-data gets
> corrupted (after a failure and a HD is replaced) the strip is punctured
> (google punctured strip).  If this is the case, no matter what you do PD
> 4 will never rebuild correctly and it will always report a predictive
> failure.
>
> You did not say if you replaced pd4 or not.  If you did, there is a
> chance that pd4 is just bad.  If you did not, there is a greater chance
> that pd4 is bad.  The only things you can do now is replace pd4 and see
> if it rebuilds correctly.  If it does not and still shows a predictive
> failure there is only one recourse.  Backup all the data.  Break the
> raid, rebuild the raid, restore the data. You MIGHT get away with
> clearing the strip, then rebuilding the strip in the controller and in a
> perfect world, all the data will be there.  Slim chance.
>
> If your meta-data is corrupted, you are now gambling with your data.
> With out respect to pd4 being in a predictive failure state or not, make
> a complete backup and prepare for complete loss of that raid.  A
> punctured stripe means you have no parity to rebuild from.  Or, to put
> it differently, a bit of data was made into garbage, then copied as part
> of the parity onto the strip.  The corrupted parity strip faithfully
> rebuild the array, only this time it included that piece of bogus data.
> Everything will work just fine until the machine tries to access that
> bit, expecting to find some sort of data it stored there, only to find
> nonsensical data, then WHAM!  Lock up.  You can also experience
> seemingly random HD failures, sometimes multiple hd will get kicked from
> the array.  Needles to say, this plays havoc with data preservation.
>
> This could be as simple as replacing pd4 and rebuilding (if it is just a
> SMART error), or is could be a prelude to complete data lose.  You have
> to ask yourself, "Do you feel lucky, Well, do you?"
>
> The above was learned through two years working for Dell at the
> Gold/Platinum level for server support.  Failed HDs comprised about 80%
> of the job.
>
> HTH
> --
> Damon L. Chesser
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser
>
>

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