On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:09:09 +0200 Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 09:30:05 -0400, Celejar wrote: ... > > I am still baffled, though, by several > > things: > > > > a) Should printing really be so crippled on Debian, with its emphasis > > on freedom, if the MS fonts, or at least the liberation drop-ins, > > aren't installed? The only package which depends on liberation is the > > openoffice meta-package, which I don't have installed, although I do > > have writer. Should I file a bug? Against what? And am I really the > > first one to be bitten by this? > > You seem to be very selective when installing packages. There is nothing > wrong with that, of course, but I would suspect that many users of > "desktop" (as opposed to "server") machines just go for the metapackages > and they are maybe also more liberal in installing "recommends" and > "suggests". That could explain why the majority of users is less likely > to run into this kind of problem. I do indeed disable automatic installation of recommends, and I periodically mark packages as automatically installed, and aggressively remove things. I'm not a script guru or linux expert, and much of my learning about system maintenance is through playing with things like package selection and kernel configuration options, to understand what things are, why they are or are not necessary, and what happens if they are removed or disabled. Sometimes (often) I find out the hard way ... > I now found a related bug (#489165) filed as "wishlist" against > fontconfig-config. I think it would be good if you added a brief > description of your problem to that bug report to give it more weight. Done. ... > > c) Why is my pdffonts output so much uglier and less informative than > > yours? > > I have the impression that the "nice" names show up for fonts that are > widely used and whose names are accepted as standard. For other PDFs I > see font names that are similar to your "ulgy" ones, e.g. LNFWNR+CMR10 > (a "Computer Modern" font of Latex), CESJKL+FreeSans, or something like > FCGNJC+AdvP4C4E74. If you want to run pdffonts yourself on the PDF that > I printed from www.debian.org then you can download it here: > http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer/celejar/www-debian-org.pdf Running pdffonts on your PDF gives me the same list that you gave in your previous message. > However, I don't recall ever seeing these "DEDVIP+f-0-0" kinds of names > before. Maybe you are still missing some other relatively important > font-related package. Here is list of the ones that I have installed: > http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer/celejar/font-related-packages.txt You do have many installed that I don't have. If I get a chance, perhaps I'll try and see if installing everything you have accomplishes anything, and if so, I suppose the next step will be a bisection, to see which package(s) is / are the crucial one(s). In the meantime, here's my list (generated from the same command in your file): http://lizzie.freehostia.com/font-related-packages.txt > Florian | Thanks, Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
