2008/5/10 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 09/05/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I really hope that this doesn't turn into a flame war. I respect your >> ideals. Please respect mine. > > Uhm. > > And what exactly are those ideals of yours? I haven't seen you express > any. Wanting good code isn't an ideal, it's just the minimum > expectation. Wanting freedom is an ideal. >
I want a car that gets good gas mileage, good performance, and does not cost much. I bought a 2008 Ford Focus. I want a phone that is easy to use, supports simple calendar functions, and has voice memo. I bought a Nokia 6288. I want an OS that is stable, secure, and is easy to use. I use Debian. I don't know whether or not my Focus pollutes. I'm certain that it pollutes less than a Jeep, but the Prius folks would certainly hang me. I don't care if my phone is GSM, TDMA, or CDMA. I don't even know what the differences are. I don't care to see the source code of my OS. I wouldn't even know what it meant if I did. That fact that I _can_ see it if I want is nice and makes me feel more secure, but as we've seen with the trojans being distributed in some official Firefox builds, the fact that the code _can_ be reviewed does not mean that the code _is_ being reviewed. I am grateful to the FOSS community that they continually improve and build upon what has been done. I have triaged many bugs, and filed many bugs, and files many RFE's which have been implemented (not with Debian, but with KDE and Mozilla). But that's not the reason that I use Debian. The reason that I use Debian is what I said before: stability and security. My ideal is studying and feeding my family. Debian lets me do that better than any other OS that I've tried. Debian also fits your ideal that software should be free. That's great. My Ford Focus fits some people's ideal that cars should not excessively pollute. That's great. My phone probably fits someone's ideal of something important. That's great too. I do not know if your intention in provoking me is to understand my reasoning (possibly), to convince me to share your ideal (more likely), or to troll (unlikely). Let me know what your intention is so that I can better formulate my replies. Assuming that you are not trolling (I don't think that you are), then know that I actually enjoy conversation with intelegent people who make me think. Just don't get started on politics. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?