Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 02:04:21PM -0600, Nate Duehr wrote:
I get a warning from the Debian listservers once in a while that my
server is bouncing messages and that:
maybe don't bounce them. either REJECT them at smtp time or simply
blackhole them.
if you're bouncing them, you've already gone to the trouble to receive
them... blackhole works great and never needs empyting.
Another problem with bouncing is that almost all of spam email forge the
From header. So if the OP is bouncing spam emails, they go to some other
person (often known misdirected bounces) and not to the spammer.
I suggest you follow Andrew suggestion and just reject spam emails at the
smtp level using 55x error if you want to reject an email. Please stop
bouncing emails.
raju
This is a nice solution for those who can use it. But I think most
people don't control their own email servers, they must rely on a
provider. This is the case for me. My provider does not give me the
option, it bounces perceived spam without asking me, and I only figured
it out when another list I am on stopped sending me my own posts.
There are a couple of solutions for people who don't want to risk
missing anything. One, whitelisting an address, server, or domain,
which still doesn't completely solve the problem with my service
provider, and two, adding the list adress(es) to one's address book.
This also doesn't work perfectly with my provider. I must combine the
two methods, and also turn *on* the email filter and set it to very low
threshold (allow most messages). With the filter on, messages which are
thought to be spam are more likely to be allowed through, they are just
marked with a [SPAM] tag.
However, the OP does not want to turn off his spam filter, and I don't
blame him, so these solutions will not work for him. (And don't work
perfectly for everyone who has no say in the matter.)
It would be nice if the list server just ignored bounced mail that was
bounced due to a spam filter. Bounced for other reasons, okay, deal
with it. But for rejected spam, ignore.
Nate Duehr (or Original Poster):
I got a response after emailing the listmaster (after some time had
passed) about this same issue. That person did not really explain the
policy (nor defend it), but they did send a few stats. The Debian lists
do not drop you for a set number of bounces, they drop you if you exceed
80% bounces. That is, for every one hundred messages sent to you, your
spam filter bounces eighty of them.
To me, that is a pretty generous threshold, and I can live with that. I
get some spam in my list folder using whitelisting, but I can live with
that, too.
Still, I would set a different policy if I were running a list.
--
Mark Allums
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
