OK  I've tried setting up the dhcp server and am still having similar 
results so I've gone back to fixed IP nos.

I can ping local machines by name &  number
I can ping www.debian.org

using the web browser epiphany i can't connect using the IP no for
debian.org or by name.

the browser iceweasel has just connected to the same ip no as debian.org
(194.109.137.218)  but connected to apache on this machine (comes up with
the "It Works!" page.

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