On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 01:39:21PM +0200, Martin Marcher wrote:
> 2007/10/18, Andy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 08:53:09PM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> > > Interesting, I have a habit though of keeping root out of LVM,
> > > very easy to get access to root in emergency  when its a raid1
> > > parition
> >
> > Agree.
> 
> Only partly, with a somewhat recent boot CD you won't have any
> problems mounting LVM on RAID or doing the necessary recovery tasks.
> The debian Etch (even netinst iirc) has all the necessary tools.
> 
> > However, I personally use a much smaller root, say 1G or less, and
> > then have /usr, /var (and possibly some others depending on the
> > purpose of the machine) inside LVM.
> 
> For that reason i keep as much as possible in LVM. Maintenance just is
> easier when you find you ran out of space on some partition and simply
> can lvresize it. But I guess that is just personal preference

The other issue is that if you look at the filesystem dependancies in
the boot-up scripts, on Debian you can't finish single-user mode without
needing all filesystems.  I'm rather perturbed about it since before
raid1/LVM (i.e. Etch) I had need of a properly funcitoning single-user
mode and if I hadn't had busybox-static installed I would have been SOL
since the box can't boot a LiveCD.  The invention of LiveCDs seems to
have caused whoever sets up the boot-up policy to forget about such
niceties as a properly functioning stand-alone single mode.

The Etch install CD does have a nice rescue mode that finds LVM and raid
arrays, if your box has enough ram to activate it.  I have only one that
does.

> 
> > I have avoided LVM mirroring because as far as I am aware the
> > machine would not come up entirely without human intervention if a
> > drive would be lost - please correct me if I am wrong there..
> 
> IMHO lvm mirroring is useless. if I do LVM (on servers) I have
> multiple drives and i tend to trust mdadm more in this field than LVM
> (don't ask me why - I couldn't logically say why).

The advantage I see to LVM mirroring is the ability to create mirrored
filesystems on the fly and to resize them.  Can't do that with mdadm
raid1.  I don't use LVM mirroring since it isn't part of Etch's install
system.

Doug.


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