"Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What about stumpwm? > > http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/ > > Use this window manager somebody on Debian Etch?
Yes, I have it installed using etch, and like it very much. Though it was kind of hard to get going. You may have already set it up, but just in case you have not, of in case somebody else is trying, I will briefly mention what I found worked. It may help somebody out there. Firstly, I never got the Debian version working at all. I am sure I goofed it up, but I just couldn't find a way to make it start. The docs didn't seem to offer anything useful at all either. In the end I used the CVS version of stumpwm. It has a real README which actually has decent instructions. By following them I had a working executable in just a couple of minutes. However, sbcl from Debian also does not work right, and under any kind of load the entire system becomes uselessly unresponsive. I removed the SBCL installed via apt, and recompiled it from source. Then I installed clx using asdf "(require 'asdf) (require 'asdf-install) (asdf-install:install 'clx)" and recompiled stump. This worked fine, though the final product tends not to be very lightweight. I was also able to get stump with clisp working, though in the end it was less than reliable. The up-side though is that it is much, much lighter than sbcl. Again, I could not get the clisp I installed via apt to work, and had to compile from source. It failed again and again to work with stump though, until I tried CVS on that too. I also had to use new-clx instead of mit-clx. Unfortunately, even after getting it to work it crashes X fairly regularly (anytime certain dialog boxes are used, such as print or downloads) and so is rather less than useful. Really too bad as I was much impressed with its generally faster, lighter feel than stump with sbcl. But, I did get sbcl going okay, and with it stump seems solid and usable. It is fast overall, and certainly has the nice feel of ratpoison, with the bonus of a mode-line. And even though it is not terribly lightweight considering the sparsity of the thing I still think it is an excellent choice for a tiling WM. However, as much as I liked it, xmonad (http://xmonad.org/) was even more pleasing than everything else. It also took a little work to get going, though nothing like stump, but it was worth it in the end. It is unbelievably light and fast and even seems smaller than ratpoison. And dzen2, a separate app, as a status-bar is much more full-featured than stump's, and seems about as good as what ion has. Additionally, it handles transient windows much more realistically than does stump or ratpoison. With it you can also grab the window and resize it making that window a floating one rather than tiling, all without the hoops you seemingly had to jump through with ion3 to do the same thing. Without a doubt, xmonad with dzen has been the most satisfying and simple approach I have yet tried in the window manager market. Patrick
