On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 04:41:12PM -0400, Manu Hack wrote:
> On 9/27/07, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 27. September 2007 21:02 schrieb Manu Hack:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have a general question which I got when trying out different
> > > windows managers/desktop environments.  When I try to use windowmaker
> > > (I wanted to make my computer faster as it's getting old), it
> > > certainly is fast for initialization.  But after that when around
> > > 10-15 windows are opened and distributed in different workspaces, I
> > > found moving around different workspaces and windows pretty slow (I
> > > compared with KDE which I usually use.) and thus I still decided to
> > > stick with KDE for the moment.  Maybe the comparison is not fair as
> > > KDE definitely needs longer time to initialize.  But my question is,
> > > is there a reason for that?
> > >
> > > Manu
> > You might need more RAM
> 
> I agree. :) But I'm still confused as to why KDE can outperform (at
> least up to my experience) a supposedly light weight wm (maybe
> windowmaker is not lightweight enough, will try fluxbox later) on the
> same machine.  Is that because of something like memory management or
> something like that?

its probably got more to do with memory *use* than management. By that
I mean, you may end up wasting memory by using kde apps within a
different wm. The kde apps will load up whole bunches of kde libs in
order to function in addition to the libs used by whatever wm you're
using. You haven't said what your 10-15 windows are doing, so I'm only
guessing. Also, it what ways does kde perform better than windowmaker?
is it in overall response of the system? screen drawing? window
dragging? just switching from one app to another within the same
workspace?

> 
> The reason I'm asking is that I want to change because before I
> thought I can improve the efficiency by using a more lightweight wm
> but it turns out it's not true in my case.  So maybe as long as the
> memory is enough to use KDE (or GNOME), KDE can be faster than those
> lightweight wm because they use more memory?

you should do some more comprehensive testing to see if you can figure
out what's going on. keep an eye on a top instance or two and sort
them by processor usage and memory usage. That will give some
insight. 

A

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