On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 11:13:13AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 09:51:52PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 09/22/07 20:44, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > Well, it speeded up somewhat by ditching the install-by-default locales > > > stuff and sticking with 'C'. I use icewm. On Etch, xorg takes a lot > > > more memory than on OBSD. Enough that with one xterm only, Etch hits > > > swap and OBSD has 15 MB ram free. I can open Konqueror via ssh and > > > still not hit swap (unless I open more than 4 tabs). > > > > > > So yes, etch is slower and uses more memory than OpenBSD. > > > > > > On the other hand, nothing is easier to set up than Debian with > > > aptitutude. OBSD's packages don't come with startup scripts; you have > > > to write your own. I've also had some interoperability problems when > > > sshing from OBSD to Etch. Had to find a common TERM when on VTs > > > (TERM=screen works), and lately iceweasel doesn't work via ssh from > > > OBSD. > > > > > > Also, as a desktop, OBSD is difficult. > > > > > > So its a tradeoff. I haven't decided which way to go for the P-II, but > > > I'll stick with Etch for my Athlon64 for the multi-media ease. > > > > What's FreeBSD like of small systems? > > Its not their thing either. > > I know there are minidistros like DSL but DSL is small as in how much > can they pack onto a small CD, not how to shoehorn into 16-32 MB ram. > I'm also not sure how they keep up with security fixes. > > OBSD becomes new every 6 months with security patches whenever, but I > can't build with this small ram and especially this small a drive. > > My biggest problem is that there is not OS designed to be great for a > stand-alone old small computer. An OS that can both fit on small > resources, and be kept up-to-date without a separate build machine. > > Linux's target is the modern desktop and the focus is on keeping up with > new hardware. The BSDs keep the drivers for old hardware but patches > require building and that building relies on gcc which isn't optimized > for use on old systems. > > So I'll keep looking. depending on what you are trying to do, opwnrt - build for 8M-16M flash machines, they have a compile for x86 ? I believe based on debian www.openwrt.org
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