On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 17:21:50 +0000, s. keeling wrote:

[...]

> Damned near
> everything drags in CUPS.  I already had lprng installed, and
> foomatic-* wanted to remove it and install CUPS.  Should I just
> complain to linuxprinting.org that they're flat out lying when they
> say I can use pretty much any spooler?  That's not true, but Debian's
> packaging system appears to think it is.
> 
> Why is it that when I do a non-DE install, then install fluxbox, it
> doesn't drag in xserver-xorg?  Can fluxbox be used without X?  Why the
> double standard?

I think the idea in this specific case is to allow for setups in which
the X server runs on a different computer.
 
> Why does CUPS (and Gnome, and KDE ...) get such close dependency ties
> when others, which really are close dependencies, don't?

Is it really that bad as far as CUPS is concerned? I have stable,
testing, unstable and experimental in my sources.list. These are the
packages which depend on cupsys AND do NOT specify an alternative
dependency on lprng AND do NOT have "cups" in their name OR their
package description:

$ aptitude -F '%p' search '~Dcupsys!~D^lprng$!(~ncups|~dcups)'
gnustep-gui-runtime
katoob
kdelibs4-dev
kdelibs4c2a
libfox-1.6-0
libfox-1.6-dev
libfox1.4
libfox1.4-dev
libgnomeprint2.2-0
libgtk2.0-0
libqt3-mt-dev
netatalk
rezound
samba
scribus
scribus-ng
swat
xfprint4

OK, I see, libgtk2.0-0 might be difficult to avoid on a desktop system
and it depends on libcupsys2 in Lenny and Sid. However, the foomatic-*
packages do not seem to depend on any CUPS packages. foomatic-filters
and foomatic-filters-ppds both recommend cupsys, but that should only be
a problem if you have told your package manager to install recommended
packages automatically.

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